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Dre2216 · 02-06-2010, 09:43 AM

As some of you might know, I had an issue at 200 or so miles where my starter attempted to start the car while I was driving and caused the starter to fail and be replaced. Fast forward to yesterday and about 2900 miles, and the same thing happens again as I am on my way to work. Unlike the last time, when I turned the car off, the starter shut down, this time the starter kept trying to turn over for about 5 minutes after i removed the key from the igintion and finally stopped once the car went to battery saver mode. So for now the car is back at O'Neils with a call to GM being made to see what is going on.

hypurone · 02-06-2010, 10:51 AM

What did they fix last time to address this? Just the starter or ignition switch or both or more? That musta been gnarly...

Dre2216 · 02-06-2010, 11:19 AM

Last time they replaced the starter and relocated some wires that appeared to be in contact with engine mounts, etc. I don't think they did anything with the ignition switch but i would have to check the previous doucuments to be sure. Gnarly is probably a good way to describe it. The guy working on my car doesn't work on the weekends so no updates until then. At least I got an Impala as a rental this time instead of the HHR.

hypurone · 02-06-2010, 04:25 PM

Ya know, if the starter engaged with the engine running, there may have been damage to the flywheel. I would insist to see it. Have them pull the starter or inspection cover and look for damage to the leading edge of the flywheel teeth. You can't miss it when it happens...

Please do post back with what they find or do to resolve...

ssjoe · 02-07-2010, 03:30 PM

Hi Chris, Man what bad luck! Mine is still parked in storage waiting for the sun to shine

TooCool5 · 02-08-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dre2216

As some of you might know, I had an issue at 200 or so miles where my starter attempted to start the car while I was driving and caused the starter to fail and be replaced. Fast forward to yesterday and about 2900 miles, and the same thing happens again as I am on my way to work. Unlike the last time, when I turned the car off, the starter shut down, this time the starter kept trying to turn over for about 5 minutes after i removed the key from the igintion and finally stopped once the car went to battery saver mode. So for now the car is back at O'Neils with a call to GM being made to see what is going on.

This sounds like something electronic with the auto start feature, ours cars automatically start the car even if you just turn to start and let the key go for 1 second. Changing the starter is like placing a bucket on the floor when the roof is leaking.

Dre2216 · 02-08-2010, 01:30 PM

Well just got off the phone with the service guys at O'neils. The did a look underneath the car to see if any wires from the old recall items were a problem and all looked good. My car already has the gm tape solution to this recall installed on it. They did order a new starter, since the old one is shot now and it will be here tomorrow. At that point they will install it and try and trace the electrical/ignition system. They also called the camaro division at gm to see if an engineer can either come out to look at the car or work along side them via phone calls to address the problem. Looks like it may be there a while this time.

hypurone · 02-08-2010, 03:16 PM

Well, that is both good and bad. Good that you will hopefully get to the bottom of it. Bad that you will be without the car.... Hope it all works out and quickly...

Dre2216 · 02-08-2010, 03:53 PM

I am glad that GM is getting involved so that it will get fixed correctly. I got a rental car, on the dealership, so atleast I have something to beat on in the salt and snow around here instead of my car on days I have no choice but to drive.

Dre2216 · 02-11-2010, 07:05 AM

Well looks like I am going to have the rental car for the rest of the week, weekend and part of next week. GM is sending a field engineer out to O'Neils on Monday of next week to look/work on this issue with them.

hypurone · 02-11-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dre2216

Well looks like I am going to have the rental car for the rest of the week, weekend and part of next week. GM is sending a field engineer out to O'Neils on Monday of next week to look/work on this issue with them.

Rental? You mean loaner right? This should be on their dime not yours!!

Dre2216 · 02-11-2010, 12:26 PM

I think it is technically a rental because it is from enterprise and they are charing it to the dealer. Either way, I'm not paying for it.

TooCool5 · 02-15-2010, 12:03 PM

Keep us posted as to the successful repair.

Dre2216 · 02-15-2010, 03:28 PM

I certainly will. The GM guy will be there tomorrow to start working on it, so hopefully I will have some more information at the end of the day.

02-06-2010, 09:43 AM	#1
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	Out of Commision Again As some of you might know, I had an issue at 200 or so miles where my starter attempted to start the car while I was driving and caused the starter to fail and be replaced. Fast forward to yesterday and about 2900 miles, and the same thing happens again as I am on my way to work. Unlike the last time, when I turned the car off, the starter shut down, this time the starter kept trying to turn over for about 5 minutes after i removed the key from the igintion and finally stopped once the car went to battery saver mode. So for now the car is back at O'Neils with a call to GM being made to see what is going on. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-06-2010, 10:51 AM	#2
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	What did they fix last time to address this? Just the starter or ignition switch or both or more? That musta been gnarly... __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

02-06-2010, 11:19 AM	#3
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	Last time they replaced the starter and relocated some wires that appeared to be in contact with engine mounts, etc. I don't think they did anything with the ignition switch but i would have to check the previous doucuments to be sure. Gnarly is probably a good way to describe it. The guy working on my car doesn't work on the weekends so no updates until then. At least I got an Impala as a rental this time instead of the HHR. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-06-2010, 04:25 PM	#4
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	Ya know, if the starter engaged with the engine running, there may have been damage to the flywheel. I would insist to see it. Have them pull the starter or inspection cover and look for damage to the leading edge of the flywheel teeth. You can't miss it when it happens... Please do post back with what they find or do to resolve... __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo Last edited by hypurone; 02-06-2010 at 04:26 PM. Reason: sp

02-07-2010, 03:30 PM	#5
ssjoe Ollie Drives: 02 Subrbn/94 Prizm/10 SSRS :) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Northern, CT Posts: 393	Hi Chris, Man what bad luck! Mine is still parked in storage waiting for the sun to shine __________________ Living the dream!

02-08-2010, 01:30 PM	#7
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	Well just got off the phone with the service guys at O'neils. The did a look underneath the car to see if any wires from the old recall items were a problem and all looked good. My car already has the gm tape solution to this recall installed on it. They did order a new starter, since the old one is shot now and it will be here tomorrow. At that point they will install it and try and trace the electrical/ignition system. They also called the camaro division at gm to see if an engineer can either come out to look at the car or work along side them via phone calls to address the problem. Looks like it may be there a while this time. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-08-2010, 03:16 PM	#8
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	Well, that is both good and bad. Good that you will hopefully get to the bottom of it. Bad that you will be without the car.... Hope it all works out and quickly... __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

02-08-2010, 03:53 PM	#9
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	I am glad that GM is getting involved so that it will get fixed correctly. I got a rental car, on the dealership, so atleast I have something to beat on in the salt and snow around here instead of my car on days I have no choice but to drive. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-11-2010, 07:05 AM	#10
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	Well looks like I am going to have the rental car for the rest of the week, weekend and part of next week. GM is sending a field engineer out to O'Neils on Monday of next week to look/work on this issue with them. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-11-2010, 12:26 PM	#12
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	I think it is technically a rental because it is from enterprise and they are charing it to the dealer. Either way, I'm not paying for it. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

02-15-2010, 12:03 PM	#13
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,242 View My Garage	Keep us posted as to the successful repair. __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI

02-15-2010, 03:28 PM	#14
Dre2216 Drives: 1SS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 264 View My Garage	I certainly will. The GM guy will be there tomorrow to start working on it, so hopefully I will have some more information at the end of the day. __________________ 1SS/RS-6M-Inferno Orange NKKV6J---2G1FS1EW4A9134727 SLP LM II 2/26 - Car Back From Dealer!

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