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1badfnss · 03-03-2012, 10:12 AM

Guys I am put-out! I drive a 2SS and On the 24th of Feb. my Babe rolled into a stationary object. The vehicle was parked in a location away from other vehicles (common practice amongst all Camaro5 owners) with the vic locted secured and the parking brake engaged. When I was in the PSG meeting my soldiers came running informing me "that some one has your ride". I broke contact from the TST meeting to find my ride had rolled into a fence. With my fellow SMs all about we tookd pics of all around the scene. MPs were called, insurence, chevy, GM and sworn statements made. Four days later GM called me to Link up at a selected chevy dealer. the GM guy said it won't take long... half of the day later and this investigator pitching his finding...he said, "sorry"....the parking brake works you just have to pull it all the way up. with the parking brake all the way up and of course some bleeding from my fourth point of contact.. it takes 13 clicks... when i engaged the P-brake it was engaged at 11 clicks. So I will have to fix something that I did not do... something that I was informed or thought would be covered by GM (as was pitched to me in the purchace)... you know a mechanical reason, like wow!
This is my fourth Camaro and being a die hard chevy fan.... well the way that GM is treating me on this insident...because of this I wont be buying from GM again. Youd think they support or help GM fans out; In addition... while the GM yahoos were assessing my vic they scratched my driver door. Sh.t! and I was going to look into purchaseing another Camaro. "Treat others like you want to be treated".... they need to take a secound look at them selves and not talk the talk if they cant walk the walk... 100% and then some. Supporting their customers horse-sh.t! only if you are like a pac of higher stature in the goverment or pay scale. Common folk... vets like me... you fought for our country, and our way of life... "Sorry".
"Here Is To Us and The Few Like Us"

Ronn · 03-03-2012, 10:19 AM

Sorry to see that, did it slip out of gear?

The Stig · 03-03-2012, 10:25 AM

Sorry to hear. The parking brake on these cars really needs to be shortened. I know I really have to yank mine up to get it to engage.

KJS · 03-03-2012, 10:26 AM

Sorry about the damage, but let me understand, you're blaming GM because the emergency brake wasn't properly engaged?? Wow thats a stretch.
I applaud and glad about your sevice to our country and all but hey, I think you're off base here.
BTW if they dinged or scatched your door, they owe you.

SlingShot · 03-03-2012, 10:28 AM

I take it there should have been a big sticker to tell you to put it in gear ...

OUR72GTO · 03-03-2012, 10:29 AM

Parking in neutral is never a good idea! GM has no plan that covers that.

PSDSAINT · 03-03-2012, 10:36 AM

I feel for you and the damage to your ride but the responsibility is your's I'm afraid. You should have had it in 1st or park, plus the e-brake, no???

Caddyroger · 03-03-2012, 10:51 AM

Your fault not GM fault.

VenomInside · 03-03-2012, 10:55 AM

Yep. Totally GM's fault.

/Sarcasm.

Nessal · 03-03-2012, 10:55 AM

I used to park my car out of gear with only the parking brakes engaged. It rolled down a hill once. Never again!

1BADLS3 · 03-03-2012, 11:06 AM

With all the acronyms, it sounds as if you are in the military.

Clearly they have not yelled your ears off enough and taught you about personal responsibility. When you leave your vehicle, you secure it. You pull the brake and make sure it's set, you put it in gear, turn your wheels to a curb if you need to, get out, lock up the doors and windows. EVERY TIME. Or else something will go wrong, someone will mess with your shit, etc.

Think about how you were taught how to handle a weapon. If the parking break was a safety on a gun, do you think you'd pay a little more attention to whether or not it was engaged?

Lesson learned....lick your wounds, fix up the car, and move on.

molsonbrador · 03-03-2012, 11:16 AM

Thank you for your service but this is a stretch.

Obzen · 03-03-2012, 11:18 AM

Never park in neutral. It was a pricey lesson but now you know. Enjoy the Camaro. Thanks for your service.

Steve Dallas · 03-03-2012, 11:23 AM

Sorry about your car and all...but putting it in gear is something you should be doing. And, I've not pulled the parking brake all the way up, but always check to make sure the car isn't rolling and won't roll (thus, putting in gear) before I leave the car.

Any reason you don't put it in gear?

03-03-2012, 10:12 AM	#1
1badfnss Drives: na Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: US Posts: 32 View My Garage	GM, put a bad tatste in my mouth Guys I am put-out! I drive a 2SS and On the 24th of Feb. my Babe rolled into a stationary object. The vehicle was parked in a location away from other vehicles (common practice amongst all Camaro5 owners) with the vic locted secured and the parking brake engaged. When I was in the PSG meeting my soldiers came running informing me "that some one has your ride". I broke contact from the TST meeting to find my ride had rolled into a fence. With my fellow SMs all about we tookd pics of all around the scene. MPs were called, insurence, chevy, GM and sworn statements made. Four days later GM called me to Link up at a selected chevy dealer. the GM guy said it won't take long... half of the day later and this investigator pitching his finding...he said, "sorry"....the parking brake works you just have to pull it all the way up. with the parking brake all the way up and of course some bleeding from my fourth point of contact.. it takes 13 clicks... when i engaged the P-brake it was engaged at 11 clicks. So I will have to fix something that I did not do... something that I was informed or thought would be covered by GM (as was pitched to me in the purchace)... you know a mechanical reason, like wow! This is my fourth Camaro and being a die hard chevy fan.... well the way that GM is treating me on this insident...because of this I wont be buying from GM again. Youd think they support or help GM fans out; In addition... while the GM yahoos were assessing my vic they scratched my driver door. Sh.t! and I was going to look into purchaseing another Camaro. "Treat others like you want to be treated".... they need to take a secound look at them selves and not talk the talk if they cant walk the walk... 100% and then some. Supporting their customers horse-sh.t! only if you are like a pac of higher stature in the goverment or pay scale. Common folk... vets like me... you fought for our country, and our way of life... "Sorry". "Here Is To Us and The Few Like Us" Attached Images

03-03-2012, 10:19 AM	#2
Ronn Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 1,181	Sorry to see that, did it slip out of gear? __________________ 1SS / RS / M6 / IOM / Black rally stripes / Polished wheels It's a high school prom, it's a Springsteen song, it's a ride in a Chevrolet...

03-03-2012, 10:25 AM	#3
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	Sorry to hear. The parking brake on these cars really needs to be shortened. I know I really have to yank mine up to get it to engage. __________________

03-03-2012, 10:26 AM	#4
KJS Drives: '10 RJT,'95&'14 Vette Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cut Throat, NY Posts: 1,723 View My Garage	Sorry about the damage, but let me understand, you're blaming GM because the emergency brake wasn't properly engaged?? *Wow thats a stretch.* I applaud and glad about your sevice to our country and all but hey, I think you're off base here. BTW if they dinged or scatched your door, they owe you. __________________ *"As ye sow, so shall ye reap" - Me* Mine at sunset

03-03-2012, 10:28 AM	#5
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	I take it there should have been a big sticker to tell you to put it in gear ... __________________

03-03-2012, 10:29 AM	#6
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	Parking in neutral is never a good idea! GM has no plan that covers that. __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

03-03-2012, 10:36 AM	#7
PSDSAINT Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Black Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bristol, Rhode Island Posts: 37	I feel for you and the damage to your ride but the responsibility is your's I'm afraid. You should have had it in 1st or park, plus the e-brake, no???

03-03-2012, 10:51 AM	#8
Caddyroger Drives: 2011 RJT Camaro LT2 RS auto shift Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Washington state Posts: 1,861	Your fault not GM fault. __________________ Caddy

03-03-2012, 10:55 AM	#10
Nessal Drives: Exige, Miata, Ghia Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,309	I used to park my car out of gear with only the parking brakes engaged. It rolled down a hill once. Never again!

03-03-2012, 11:06 AM	#11
1BADLS3 Drives: Sold: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: United States Posts: 1,896	With all the acronyms, it sounds as if you are in the military. Clearly they have not yelled your ears off enough and taught you about personal responsibility. When you leave your vehicle, you secure it. You pull the brake and make sure it's set, you put it in gear, turn your wheels to a curb if you need to, get out, lock up the doors and windows. EVERY TIME. Or else something will go wrong, someone will mess with your shit, etc. Think about how you were taught how to handle a weapon. If the parking break was a safety on a gun, do you think you'd pay a little more attention to whether or not it was engaged? Lesson learned....lick your wounds, fix up the car, and move on.

03-03-2012, 11:16 AM	#12
molsonbrador Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2018 Colorado Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 2,207	Thank you for your service but this is a stretch.

03-03-2012, 11:18 AM	#13
Obzen Pull up Cougar! Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,875	Never park in neutral. It was a pricey lesson but now you know. Enjoy the Camaro. Thanks for your service.

03-03-2012, 11:23 AM	#14
Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	Sorry about your car and all...but putting it in gear is something you should be doing. And, I've not pulled the parking brake all the way up, but always check to make sure the car isn't rolling and won't roll (thus, putting in gear) before I leave the car. Any reason you don't put it in gear? __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

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