3.4 pulley without meth safe? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

10aSSee D · 10-04-2010, 06:13 PM

I was just wondering what you guys think about running a 3.4 pulley on a maggie without meth? If you tune safely would it be ok? Just worried about the coating on the rotors with the meth that I've been hearing about on here. I would prefer to run meth but not if it's going to screw up my blower. Any advice will be appreciated or any other solutions. I am currently running a 3.6 pulley, ADM stage 2 cam, and Stainless Works headers and full exhaust LS3. Thanks guys for the help and info.

Supercharged SS · 10-04-2010, 06:19 PM

I'd be careful. You're are on the boderline with running out of fuel so either go with meth or a fuel upgrade i.e. bap or new pump etc.

10aSSee D · 10-04-2010, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I'd be careful. You're are on the boderline with running out of fuel so either go with meth or a fuel upgrade i.e. bap or new pump etc.

Sorry forgot to mention I am running the ADM fuel system as well.

Supercharged SS · 10-04-2010, 07:19 PM

In that case I think you're gd to go, but don't quote me. As long as you have the fuel then you should be fine. In your case the meth would be added insurance if you choose to use it, doesn't seem like you are. Maybe just ask Ted or even Andy and they can give you the concrete answer. Gd luck!

old motorhead · 10-04-2010, 07:43 PM

How much boost and what are your IAT's now? What are your power goals? If you can get away without it, I wouldn't fool with it. One less thing to have to keep track of. I'm at 8.5psi and IAT's run a max of 35 to 40 degrees over ambient. RWHP is well over 650. I don't have meth and don't plan on getting it. My LS3 has been running that way for about a year and a half and about 15K miles.

jsharp · 10-04-2010, 09:44 PM

Meth was not recommended by maggie rep for their s/c! Sounds liek you should have the fuel to support it with the adm setup however belt slippage might be another story which requires an upgrade a pretty price.

10aSSee D · 10-05-2010, 05:28 AM

Thanks for all the info guys. Don't know what my IATs are yet not been to the dyno(was waiting to see about the meth) but my goal is 600 RWHP. I am also looking into the 8 rib system as well.

Crowley · 10-05-2010, 08:03 AM

With the fuel system, you'll be fine .. I'm only running a BAP and I have the 3.4 pulley and only his stage 1 cam ..

Crowley

firefighter1 · 10-05-2010, 09:37 AM

I'm running the BAP with the Stage 2.5 cam and everything is fine!

JANNETTYRACING · 10-05-2010, 12:30 PM

You can run a 3.4 with a cam on 93 octane pump gas but not without a cam, the boost would be too high for pump gas.

Hope this helps.

Ted.

DallasMike · 10-05-2010, 12:47 PM

With the list of mods you have. You're good to go with the smaller pulley. However I think you'll find out you'll get belt slippage in higher RPM. You'll at the very least need to source a smaller belt for that pulley.

10aSSee D · 10-05-2010, 03:29 PM

I appreciate all of you for the good info and replies. I may go ahead a swap the 3.6 for the 3.4 now. Just trying to research before hand and tune one time. Probably upgrade to an 8rib or cog drive also when funds are replenished. Where do you get your pulleys from? Thanks again to all of you!!!

Slowhawk · 10-05-2010, 03:54 PM

Are you maxed out tune wise on the 3.6" pulley? Sometimes if the car likes a few more degree's timing you might get a good gain.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-05-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

I appreciate all of you for the good info and replies. I may go ahead a swap the 3.6 for the 3.4 now. Just trying to research before hand and tune one time. Probably upgrade to an 8rib or cog drive also when funds are replenished. Where do you get your pulleys from? Thanks again to all of you!!!

I stock Them.

Ted.

10-04-2010, 06:13 PM	#1
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	3.4 pulley without meth safe? I was just wondering what you guys think about running a 3.4 pulley on a maggie without meth? If you tune safely would it be ok? Just worried about the coating on the rotors with the meth that I've been hearing about on here. I would prefer to run meth but not if it's going to screw up my blower. Any advice will be appreciated or any other solutions. I am currently running a 3.6 pulley, ADM stage 2 cam, and Stainless Works headers and full exhaust LS3. Thanks guys for the help and info. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

10-04-2010, 09:44 PM	#6
jsharp NOW CAMMED & SUPERCHARGED Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black w/ IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ar Posts: 2,336	Meth was not recommended by maggie rep for their s/c! Sounds liek you should have the fuel to support it with the adm setup however belt slippage might be another story which requires an upgrade a pretty price. __________________ Livernois Motorsports: Maggie 2300 7psi, Livernois 2C cam/L99 to LS3 Conversion, Ported TB, Rotofab w/adm race scoop, adm trans cooler,Kooks headers no cats, Kooks 3" exhaust. METCO breather. Precision 2400 Vigilante TC. Eibach Lowering Springs & Swaybars. BMR Trailing arms, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Toe Rods, BMR Differential bushings. Vossen CV3 20's w/ 305 Mickey Thompson @25psi. Zl1 front bumper. OE Zl1 Hood and matte black insert. 556RWHP/500RWTQ L99

10-05-2010, 05:28 AM	#7
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Thanks for all the info guys. Don't know what my IATs are yet not been to the dyno(was waiting to see about the meth) but my goal is 600 RWHP. I am also looking into the 8 rib system as well. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

10-05-2010, 08:03 AM	#8
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,568 View My Garage	With the fuel system, you'll be fine .. I'm only running a BAP and I have the 3.4 pulley and only his stage 1 cam .. Crowley __________________

10-05-2010, 09:37 AM	#9
firefighter1 Drives: 625 rwhp red jewel ss COTW 11-8-10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Abilene, Texas Posts: 824	I'm running the BAP with the Stage 2.5 cam and everything is fine! __________________

10-04-2010, 06:19 PM	#2
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	I'd be careful. You're are on the boderline with running out of fuel so either go with meth or a fuel upgrade i.e. bap or new pump etc.

10-04-2010, 07:19 PM	#4
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	In that case I think you're gd to go, but don't quote me. As long as you have the fuel then you should be fine. In your case the meth would be added insurance if you choose to use it, doesn't seem like you are. Maybe just ask Ted or even Andy and they can give you the concrete answer. Gd luck!

10-04-2010, 07:43 PM	#5
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	How much boost and what are your IAT's now? What are your power goals? If you can get away without it, I wouldn't fool with it. One less thing to have to keep track of. I'm at 8.5psi and IAT's run a max of 35 to 40 degrees over ambient. RWHP is well over 650. I don't have meth and don't plan on getting it. My LS3 has been running that way for about a year and a half and about 15K miles.

10-05-2010, 12:30 PM	#10
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,224	You can run a 3.4 with a cam on 93 octane pump gas but not without a cam, the boost would be too high for pump gas. Hope this helps. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

10-05-2010, 12:47 PM	#11
DallasMike Drives: 2010 2ss/rs, 2004 pontiac gto Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mckinney, TX Posts: 220	With the list of mods you have. You're good to go with the smaller pulley. However I think you'll find out you'll get belt slippage in higher RPM. You'll at the very least need to source a smaller belt for that pulley.

10-05-2010, 03:29 PM	#12
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	I appreciate all of you for the good info and replies. I may go ahead a swap the 3.6 for the 3.4 now. Just trying to research before hand and tune one time. Probably upgrade to an 8rib or cog drive also when funds are replenished. Where do you get your pulleys from? Thanks again to all of you!!! __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

10-05-2010, 03:54 PM	#13
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,017	Are you maxed out tune wise on the 3.6" pulley? Sometimes if the car likes a few more degree's timing you might get a good gain.

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