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ytown87 · 08-27-2015, 04:28 PM

A buddy of mine works for a guy with a ton of expensive nice cars. His boss wants to go down to the track soon and take a few of his cars with him. The slowest car he has for me to run against is the new McLaren 650s. So I said lets do it. The guy also has a new COPO that I cant wait to see.

I will be running a 175 shot of nitrous as well. Should be slightly over 650 at the wheels. The 650s is stock. From the McLaren forums I've read through, those cars dyno right around 520 to the wheels.

Just for kicks...will this be a good race? I know many factors to include like the launch, but this race really has me wondering if I have a shot. I'm pretty sure from a roll it would be better for me but he's trailering the car down so we wont find out until we can line them up at the tree.

camarosspower · 08-27-2015, 04:42 PM

I'm jealous I wish I could be there. Anyways it'll come down to both of yall's 60'.

Airway Monkey · 08-27-2015, 04:54 PM

Less "power" but a lot less weight too (right around 3K lbs I believe)....I believe they have a great acceleration rate (about 3 seconds to 60mph) and an advertised mid 10 second 1/4 mile. Would be great to see that car run....my guess is that it will take you (provided equal drivers).

Matt

ytown87 · 08-27-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Airway Monkey

Less "power" but a lot less weight too (right around 3K lbs I believe)....I believe they have a great acceleration rate (about 3 seconds to 60mph) and an advertised mid 10 second 1/4 mile. Would be great to see that car run....my guess is that it will take you (provided equal drivers).

Matt

Almost 1000 lbs lighter and AWD with amazing launch control. I kinda am siding with you on the 1/4 pass for both cars. I'd love to be able to race him from a 20 or 40 instead but I'll take what I can. Weather permitting, this should happen in a couple weeks.

trademaster · 08-27-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ytown87

Almost 1000 lbs lighter and AWD with amazing launch control. I kinda am siding with you on the 1/4 pass for both cars. I'd love to be able to race him from a 20 or 40 instead but I'll take what I can. Weather permitting, this should happen in a couple weeks.

It's actually rear wheel drive, but has a lot of grip. Besides the big weight advantage, the trans in those cars is very quick. It's probably going to be pretty close.

Are you on drag radials?

ytown87 · 08-27-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trademaster

It's actually rear wheel drive, but has a lot of grip. Besides the big weight advantage, the trans in those cars is very quick. It's probably going to be pretty close.

Are you on drag radials?

Yeah i will be. I wouldnt even think id have a chance on street tires

Red Hot ZL1 · 08-28-2015, 05:14 AM

Experience will win.
If the experience, in the respective cars are equal, the Mc will win due to power to weight and AWD.

Joseph1LE · 08-28-2015, 05:32 AM

I think it's a drivers race

bct10985 · 08-28-2015, 10:28 AM

Have you ever been to the track? If so what does your car run? Says the mclaren will run mid 10's @ ~134mph. I doubt u will be anywhere close to that with a manual trans.

ytown87 · 08-28-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bct10985

Have you ever been to the track? If so what does your car run? Says the mclaren will run mid 10's @ ~134mph. I doubt u will be anywhere close to that with a manual trans.

I keep most of the slips from when I go to the track. There are of course a good that I threw away but I did recently count them up and from what I have sitting around still, there's at least 60 slips I've held onto in the last year. So....I have a decent amount of seat time. I haven't been in a few months though. Since the last time, I've had a new twin disc clutch put in and went from a 75 shot to a 175 shot of spray. I honestly have no idea what my car runs right now. I can see possibly trapping close to 130 now but the 60' is what is going to hurt me or keep me out of the 10's. I'm not willing to make any hero runs trying to break mine to get it down there.

Yeah I've seen videos of your average Jo running high 10's with the 650s. No idea how this guy is with his but I'm sure he's no slouch.

rontammy0 · 08-28-2015, 01:38 PM

Don't even worry about it...just go race and have fun....people are going to point out things but really who cares.....race and report back.

ytown87 · 08-28-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rontammy0

Don't even worry about it...just go race and have fun....people are going to point out things but really who cares.....race and report back.

True...I'd be happy to win or lose this one. It would be a Camaro vs a McLaren! If I hang in there even a little, I will be pretty thrilled. Ok maybe a little more happy to win. I'm just hoping weather allows this to happen. This tropical storm rolling in isn't going to help.

This is why I love Florida....Down in Palm Beach you can find every race possible between two cars.

ZL-1 vs MP4-12c

trademaster · 08-28-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hot ZL1

Experience will win.
If the experience, in the respective cars are equal, the Mc will win due to power to weight and AWD.

Why do you guys all think the 650s is AWD? It's RWD.

rebelyell22 · 08-28-2015, 07:55 PM

Should run a 10.5 if he is a decent driver. And yes, they are RWD, not AWD.

08-27-2015, 04:28 PM	#1
ytown87 Drives: C6 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,264	Camaro SS LS3 cammed & nitrous vs McLaren 650s A buddy of mine works for a guy with a ton of expensive nice cars. His boss wants to go down to the track soon and take a few of his cars with him. The slowest car he has for me to run against is the new McLaren 650s. So I said lets do it. The guy also has a new COPO that I cant wait to see. I will be running a 175 shot of nitrous as well. Should be slightly over 650 at the wheels. The 650s is stock. From the McLaren forums I've read through, those cars dyno right around 520 to the wheels. Just for kicks...will this be a good race? I know many factors to include like the launch, but this race really has me wondering if I have a shot. I'm pretty sure from a roll it would be better for me but he's trailering the car down so we wont find out until we can line them up at the tree. __________________ 2008 C6 m6. Carbon creations front/rear carbon fiber wodebody fenders. Carbon fiber hood carbon fiber roof hoop carbon fiber zr1 extreme spoiler. NW 102mm tb. Ported intake manifold. Cometic .040 head gaskets. LG motorsports G6x3 cam. DSX flex fuel sensor. AEM methanol kit. Z06 brakes. Ebiach sway bars. ZR1 rep wheels and Nitto Invo tires. Monster stage 3 twin disc clutch. MGW short shifter. Corbeau race seats. Gforce race harnesses. SLP loudmouth 2 mufflers. Carbon fiber exhaust tips. RPM stage 4 transmission and Stage 3 rear diff. 3.73 gears. Vararam cai. Kooks 1 7/8 headers and x-pipe.

08-28-2015, 05:32 AM	#8
Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	I think it's a drivers race __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

08-28-2015, 10:28 AM	#9
bct10985 Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dover, De Posts: 1,451	Have you ever been to the track? If so what does your car run? Says the mclaren will run mid 10's @ ~134mph. I doubt u will be anywhere close to that with a manual trans. __________________ ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph

08-28-2015, 07:55 PM	#14
rebelyell22 Drives: 2011 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,902	Should run a 10.5 if he is a decent driver. And yes, they are RWD, not AWD. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS built 8/24/10

08-27-2015, 04:42 PM	#2
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	I'm jealous I wish I could be there. Anyways it'll come down to both of yall's 60'.

08-27-2015, 04:54 PM	#3
Airway Monkey Drives: 2015 2SS/1LE Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: SC Posts: 175 View My Garage	Less "power" but a lot less weight too (right around 3K lbs I believe)....I believe they have a great acceleration rate (about 3 seconds to 60mph) and an advertised mid 10 second 1/4 mile. Would be great to see that car run....my guess is that it will take you (provided equal drivers). Matt

08-28-2015, 05:14 AM	#7
Red Hot ZL1 Drives: 2014 Red Hot ZL1 Vert. M6. Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brandon, FL Posts: 217	Experience will win. If the experience, in the respective cars are equal, the Mc will win due to power to weight and AWD.

08-28-2015, 01:38 PM	#11
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Don't even worry about it...just go race and have fun....people are going to point out things but really who cares.....race and report back.