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13ZL1 · 09-13-2014, 05:56 PM

Can I start running e85 in my car or do I need a tune ? Not sure if the stock injectors or fuel pump can handle it. The best fuel we have here is 91 Octane otherwise, and from what I hear, e85 will also help with heatsoak.

I have a rotofab on now, but will be installing a 9.55 or 10" lower along with ID850's and a tune next summer.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 09-13-2014, 07:34 PM

You need to tune for E85...

smokum · 09-13-2014, 08:50 PM

Adm performance did a write up on e85 in a zl1. They had there own setup for this. Do a search on it. Made awesome power. Just search adm zl1 e85 test.

white ZL1 · 09-13-2014, 09:37 PM

On a stock car, the injectors and pump should be fine with E85. You should still datalog or put the car on a dyno to verify.
But no, E85 doesn't affect heatsoak at all.
Modded....needs a tune and more pump.

13ZL1 · 09-13-2014, 11:17 PM

With the mods, would the boost pump work, or would the original need to be replaced ?

white ZL1 · 09-14-2014, 09:11 AM

I'm thinking replaced. Almost positive of it.
Here's the thread that smokum was referring to: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274664
Andy should be able to help you with getting the right parts to go E85 on your ZL1.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 09-14-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by white ZL1

I'm thinking replaced. Almost positive of it.
Here's the thread that smokum was referring to: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274664
Andy should be able to help you with getting the right parts to go E85 on your ZL1.

Imagine this fuel system setup and install with ID1300 injectors and a flex fuel conversion and tune. Expensive, but all the E85 fuel anybody would ever need and it would automatically adjust to the change in E85 mixtures throughout the year without needing multiple tunes.

white ZL1 · 09-14-2014, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013 ZL1 #7860

Imagine this fuel system setup and install with ID1300 injectors and a flex fuel conversion and tune. Expensive, but all the E85 fuel anybody would ever need and it would automatically adjust to the change in E85 mixtures throughout the year without needing multiple tunes.

If E85 were more available where I'm at I would already have had Andy done this. Closest pump to me is 30 minutes.

christophe · 12-12-2015, 12:08 PM

Attached trends of french ZL1 Flex fuel E85.
+73HP / +52NM.

I'm looking for the best type of sparks to be used with E85 ?
Is spark iridium type mandatory in ZL1 with E85 ?

Scuzz · 12-12-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by white ZL1

If E85 were more available where I'm at I would already have had Andy done this. Closest pump to me is 30 minutes.

There is e85 all over dallas now. ADM did my e85 conversion back in October.

ZL1Kid_AL · 12-12-2015, 04:29 PM

Stock injectors won't work for long because the ethanol will corrode them. Whatever injector you decide to go with make sure it has stainless steel inners. Any Injector Dynamics model will have S.S inners
Stock pump will be fine up to low-mid 600whp on e85, then it will need a BAP or complete upgrade

ZL1Kid_AL · 12-12-2015, 04:35 PM

Every car and dyno is different, so don't expect 70hp gains like above. It is possible but I've seen 30-50hp gain more often.

Ex: My car only picked up 26hp but picked up tons of torque everywhere in the power band, +40tq in some areas

Fred 16 · 12-13-2015, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZL1Kid_AL

Stock injectors won't work for long because the ethanol will corrode them. Whatever injector you decide to go with make sure it has stainless steel inners. Any Injector Dynamics model will have S.S inners
Stock pump will be fine up to low-mid 600whp on e85, then it will need a BAP or complete upgrade

Hi,
thank you for your contribution.
to be sure: what's a BAP?

Thanks!!!!!

merrell13 · 12-13-2015, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred 16

Hi,
thank you for your contribution.
to be sure: what's a BAP?

Thanks!!!!!

Boost a pump

09-13-2014, 05:56 PM	#1
13ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: ND Posts: 8	E85 Can I start running e85 in my car or do I need a tune ? Not sure if the stock injectors or fuel pump can handle it. The best fuel we have here is 91 Octane otherwise, and from what I hear, e85 will also help with heatsoak. I have a rotofab on now, but will be installing a 9.55 or 10" lower along with ID850's and a tune next summer.

12-12-2015, 04:29 PM	#11
ZL1Kid_AL Drives: 2014 ZL1- Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 462	Stock injectors won't work for long because the ethanol will corrode them. Whatever injector you decide to go with make sure it has stainless steel inners. Any Injector Dynamics model will have S.S inners Stock pump will be fine up to low-mid 600whp on e85, then it will need a BAP or complete upgrade __________________ 750whp @ 13psi Garage Built on Jack Stands.. 850++ 100 shot of sauce

12-12-2015, 04:35 PM	#12
ZL1Kid_AL Drives: 2014 ZL1- Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 462	Every car and dyno is different, so don't expect 70hp gains like above. It is possible but I've seen 30-50hp gain more often. Ex: My car only picked up 26hp but picked up tons of torque everywhere in the power band, +40tq in some areas __________________ 750whp @ 13psi Garage Built on Jack Stands.. 850++ 100 shot of sauce

09-13-2014, 07:34 PM	#2
2013 ZL1 #7860 Drives: 2013 ZL1 A6 #7860 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: CO, USA Posts: 1,279	You need to tune for E85...

09-13-2014, 08:50 PM	#3
smokum Drives: 2010 2ssrs Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 827 View My Garage	Adm performance did a write up on e85 in a zl1. They had there own setup for this. Do a search on it. Made awesome power. Just search adm zl1 e85 test.

09-13-2014, 09:37 PM	#4
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	On a stock car, the injectors and pump should be fine with E85. You should still datalog or put the car on a dyno to verify. But no, E85 doesn't affect heatsoak at all. Modded....needs a tune and more pump.

09-13-2014, 11:17 PM	#5
13ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: ND Posts: 8	With the mods, would the boost pump work, or would the original need to be replaced ?

09-14-2014, 09:11 AM	#6
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	I'm thinking replaced. Almost positive of it. Here's the thread that smokum was referring to: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274664 Andy should be able to help you with getting the right parts to go E85 on your ZL1.

12-12-2015, 12:08 PM	#9
christophe Drives: CAMARO CONVERTIBLE L99 2012 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: FRANCE Posts: 66	Attached trends of french ZL1 Flex fuel E85. +73HP / +52NM. I'm looking for the best type of sparks to be used with E85 ? Is spark iridium type mandatory in ZL1 with E85 ?