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91Z28350 · 10-24-2011, 10:47 AM

Just curious, am I the only one who feels disppointed now that the weight is revealed? The damn thing weighs almost a half ton more than a Z06! and 300 lbs more than a GT500.

SSOOCH · 10-24-2011, 10:49 AM

ZL1 stands for "Zee Large One"!!

ShnOmac · 10-24-2011, 10:56 AM

Nope.

It has more than enough performance to counter said weight "issue".

OldJedi · 10-24-2011, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91Z28350

Just curious, am I the only one who feels disppointed now that the weight is revealed? The damn thing weighs almost a half ton more than a Z06! and 300 lbs more than a GT500.

It is 100 pounds less than a CTS-V and ran the same ring 22 seconds faster. NO, I am not disappointed at all. This is a Bad Ass car, period.

VenomInside · 10-24-2011, 11:08 AM

Weight savings costs $.

lbls1 · 10-24-2011, 11:11 AM

I'm waiting on the bottom line number. I'll know whether I'll be satisfied by then. Although the car is heavy, it really isn't much of a detriment to me, as there are a couple of high powered performance cars out there that have heavy curb weights......although yes, I was hoping for a lighter number.

ndcyberss · 10-24-2011, 11:16 AM

Not disappointed at all Great Job GM the car is amazing!!

Scarrzz · 10-24-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJedi

It is 100 pounds less than a CTS-V and ran the same ring 22 seconds faster. NO, I am not disappointed at all. This is a Bad Ass car, period.

Nothing more needs be said... but I don't always do what is expedient, so I will elaborate.

This is the best balance between weight savings and performance for the maximum number of people. If you want to pull off a few coolers and install a less competent differential, and spend another handful of thousands of dollars on say a carbon fiber driveshaft and other things, I'm betting you can get it down to under 4k pounds.

I'm intentionally being silly here to prove the point which I hope is obvious. It's a balancing game.

I believe the 'ring time alone proves that this game shows ZL1 to be a WINNER.

(although I may just add a CF Driveshaft)

2010SS2SS · 10-24-2011, 11:20 AM

Just another naysayer....
Why worry about the weight when it is pretty apparent that the performance levels are there? Like its been said 100 times if you want to spend the $4 to lighten it up then so be it. This car still performs with cars that cost 30 to 60 grand more and with a few mods can probably out perform them even with the weight

Nightstalker Medic · 10-24-2011, 11:25 AM

I'm not disappointed. This car is for my wife. Now, if she decides to run the car and tells me that she wants to go faster, then I will make it so. I can only hope.

Z4me · 10-24-2011, 11:33 AM

I'm all for a lighter car and all, but I look at safety issues as well. I dunno about
some of the other performance cars out there and how they would handle a really bad collison. But the ZL1 will protect me and my love ones and that's another important
point to consider. This car will have more then enough "G" force for most
enthusists out there. If you need to reduce the wieght yank the back seats and get a smaller gas tank etc. But just pure stock its a sweet
car imo.

Arachnyd · 10-24-2011, 11:46 AM

Why do you care about weight?

really?

Does your garage have a weight limit?

Does your house live down a street with a bridge with a 4000 lb weight limit?

If so, you may want to check out a car like an S2000 or a Mazda Miata. They are both very light cars

blufin · 10-24-2011, 12:50 PM

Then don't buy one. Save an allocation for those of us that love everything about this beast.

'StangBlaster5000 · 10-24-2011, 01:17 PM

I think right now, there are a lot of people perfectly happy to keep their heads in the sand.

They are comparing the ZL1's "NEW" 'Ring numbers with all of the "OLD" numbers from a few years ago, but when everything plays out, there are going to be a lot of Red Faces around here.

There are going to be a LOT of people who are going to find out just how much WEIGHT plays into everything. PEOPLE, there is a REASON the ZL1 has 80 MORE HP than a Zo6 Corvette, but yet, runs the 'Ring TWENTY SECONDS SLOWER!

10-24-2011, 10:47 AM	#1
91Z28350 Drives: 2012 GT500 SVTPP 2010 Traverse LTZ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roanoke,TX Posts: 665	Am I the only one who is disappointed? Just curious, am I the only one who feels disppointed now that the weight is revealed? The damn thing weighs almost a half ton more than a Z06! and 300 lbs more than a GT500.

10-24-2011, 10:49 AM	#2
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,358 View My Garage	ZL1 stands for "Zee Large One"!! __________________

10-24-2011, 11:11 AM	#6
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,020	I'm waiting on the bottom line number. I'll know whether I'll be satisfied by then. Although the car is heavy, it really isn't much of a detriment to me, as there are a couple of high powered performance cars out there that have heavy curb weights......although yes, I was hoping for a lighter number. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

10-24-2011, 11:25 AM	#10
Nightstalker Medic Drives: 2007 C6 Corvette Join Date: May 2010 Location: DuPont, Wa Posts: 24	I'm not disappointed. This car is for my wife. Now, if she decides to run the car and tells me that she wants to go faster, then I will make it so. I can only hope. __________________ "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me” “NSDQ” Kooks 1-7/8 Hdrs/Kooks X-Pipe: 3x2-1/2/Flowmaster American Racing Exhaust/160 Thermostat/25% UDP/EnglandGreen Whiplash Cam/Patriot Extreme DV Springs (.660s)/7.400 Chromemoly Pushrods/High Flow Oil Pump/Halltech Venom CAI/Ported FAST 92/BeHe Performance Tune/MGW Shifter/Z06 Sways F & R/Oil Can/K&N Breather/Yella Terra Ultralite Non-Adjustable Rocker 1.7 Ratio

10-24-2011, 11:33 AM	#11
Z4me Drives: 2013 ZL1 IOM Vin #169 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,953	I'm all for a lighter car and all, but I look at safety issues as well. I dunno about some of the other performance cars out there and how they would handle a really bad collison. But the ZL1 will protect me and my love ones and that's another important point to consider. This car will have more then enough "G" force for most enthusists out there. If you need to reduce the wieght yank the back seats and get a smaller gas tank etc. But just pure stock its a sweet car imo. __________________ Last edited by Z4me; 10-24-2011 at 01:54 PM.

10-24-2011, 10:56 AM	#3
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	Nope. It has more than enough performance to counter said weight "issue".

10-24-2011, 11:16 AM	#7
ndcyberss Drives: 2016 2SS 8sp Hyper Blue Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Dakota Posts: 49	Not disappointed at all Great Job GM the car is amazing!!

10-24-2011, 11:20 AM	#9
2010SS2SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cypress, texas Posts: 1,302	Just another naysayer.... Why worry about the weight when it is pretty apparent that the performance levels are there? Like its been said 100 times if you want to spend the $4 to lighten it up then so be it. This car still performs with cars that cost 30 to 60 grand more and with a few mods can probably out perform them even with the weight

10-24-2011, 11:46 AM	#12
Arachnyd Master of all trades Drives: 2many2count Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Chester, OH (near cincy) Posts: 732	Why do you care about weight? really? Does your garage have a weight limit? Does your house live down a street with a bridge with a 4000 lb weight limit? If so, you may want to check out a car like an S2000 or a Mazda Miata. They are both very light cars __________________ 2010 Camaro SS modified extensively. I stretched the body to make it a 4 door, but I swapped in the 3.6L DI V6 for fuel economy. Then I picked up a corvette body around the V8. I also swapped the body for a C2 Z28. (In short I traded it for three cars, a Corvette Z06r, a C2 Camaro Z28, and a Cadillac CTS Summer Performance package 3.6L DI with Aisin 6spd.)

10-24-2011, 12:50 PM	#13
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	Then don't buy one. Save an allocation for those of us that love everything about this beast. __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

10-24-2011, 01:17 PM	#14
'StangBlaster5000 Drives: Waiting for the 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	I think right now, there are a lot of people perfectly happy to keep their heads in the sand. They are comparing the ZL1's "NEW" 'Ring numbers with all of the "OLD" numbers from a few years ago, but when everything plays out, there are going to be a lot of Red Faces around here. There are going to be a LOT of people who are going to find out just how much WEIGHT plays into everything. PEOPLE, there is a REASON the ZL1 has 80 MORE HP than a Zo6 Corvette, but yet, runs the 'Ring TWENTY SECONDS SLOWER!

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