No Code LT's w/out tune!? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Birm · 03-13-2012, 09:46 AM

I could of sworn I read somewhere that there were certain sets of LT's that do not throw codes therefore wouldn't require tune.

I am wanting to put my LT's on now and hold off on tuning until my cam swap..In the mean time, I am wanting to keep the PT Warranty intact until the swap.

I know i have read it, and I did do a search but came up with nothing.. Anyone!?

Birm · 03-13-2012, 09:47 AM

Also: I know I will get more out of a tune, but I want the sound and extra little hp now, and not pay for multiple tunes....

texas_boss · 03-13-2012, 09:50 AM

Not sure how it is where you live, but here in Houston most if not all shops offer lifetime tune, first session may be like $450, but then after that its free! I know first hand from my dad's C5 with Lt's intake etc etc

Birm · 03-13-2012, 09:53 AM

Most offer tweaks to the original, for instance: I have CAI/Scoop/Xpipe add LT's they'd tune...and if anything needs to be tweaked, they would do so..but if I had a CAM EVERYTHING would need to be re-done therefore they wouldn't just give me a new tune it would cost more $$

Make sense?

JHart · 03-13-2012, 10:04 AM

I would just wait, or if you wwanted them done go ahead and do the LT's. i got bored and gutted my stock cats the other day. It's throwin a code. doesn't bother me, gonna tune when i get my actual long tubes and other parts anyway bud.

RED 2012 · 03-13-2012, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texas_boss

Not sure how it is where you live, but here in Houston most if not all shops offer lifetime tune, first session may be like $450, but then after that its free! I know first hand from my dad's C5 with Lt's intake etc etc

What shop is that?

Apex Motorsports · 03-13-2012, 11:31 AM

Either immediately or eventually you will get a CEL with long tube headers. My advice is always to wait on headers until you are ready for a tune and wait for the tune until you are ready to walk away from the warranty.

gelboy1015 · 03-13-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texas_boss

Not sure how it is where you live, but here in Houston most if not all shops offer lifetime tune, first session may be like $450, but then after that its free! I know first hand from my dad's C5 with Lt's intake etc etc

It actually depends. One of the well known shops I went to for a tune quote said $550 for a tune and $300 for a retune or something like that. I ended up going to Auto Adrenaline Performance for my tune. $350 with free retunes, until I get a major mod (cam, etc).

SGOS252382 · 03-13-2012, 12:40 PM

It just depends on how long its going to be until you get your cam setup. If its going to be soon, I'd hold off on the tune. But if you're not getting the cam setup for a while, I'd go ahead and get your car tuned.

Some cars with intake and long tubes definitely need a tune. It usually depends on the intake being used. If you're running a ported TB and an intake + long tubes, I'd definitely get a tune.

Buffnshine · 03-13-2012, 01:03 PM

I had JBA long tube headers put on and it never threw a code. I had them without for several months as a DD and AutoX on weekends kept waiting to see one pop up. I now have a tune back on the car for my AFM

caverman · 03-13-2012, 02:21 PM

You might get lucky and the car not throw a CEL. I put some ARH with basically off-roads (they were HF cats that were gutted) and he still hasn't seen a CEL. That's been a good month or so. He is doing the same....not getting a tune until he gets the cam.

The CEL is just a small engine light on the dash. It's not nearly as noticable as the CEL I had back when I had my Implala. That thing was big and annoying. You might be ok with the CEL especially if you plan to do the tune not too long from now.

sschevybear11 · 03-13-2012, 03:15 PM

I got a CEL within a few miles and even clearing a few times they came right back until tuned.

jmart53 · 03-13-2012, 03:23 PM

I had to drive around with my Stainless Works LT's on for about a week before I got my tune (the tuner had to reschedule, so that's why there was a wait) but I had no code thrown and it was fine. I didn't beat on it or anything because obviously that would not be a good idea. Good luck!

Avenging Orange · 03-14-2012, 11:58 PM

Its usually not the header (which are the front 02 sensors), but the cat or off road pipe (rear 02's) that throw the code. I've seen lots of posts of folks using these on the cat or off road pipe and claim they never throw a code. http://www.ebay.com/itm/O2-Oxygen-se..._Parts&vxp=mtr

03-13-2012, 09:46 AM	#1
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	No Code LT's w/out tune!? I could of sworn I read somewhere that there were certain sets of LT's that do not throw codes therefore wouldn't require tune. I am wanting to put my LT's on now and hold off on tuning until my cam swap..In the mean time, I am wanting to keep the PT Warranty intact until the swap. I know i have read it, and I did do a search but came up with nothing.. Anyone!?

03-13-2012, 10:04 AM	#5
JHart I haz camaro again :) Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Union, South Carolina Posts: 660	I would just wait, or if you wwanted them done go ahead and do the LT's. i got bored and gutted my stock cats the other day. It's throwin a code. doesn't bother me, gonna tune when i get my actual long tubes and other parts anyway bud. __________________ 2010 Camaro 1SS(back in a camaro again, yessssss!) 2010 silverado z71 ccsb(sold, old dd) 2010 camaro1ss(sold, missed, will have another someday)

03-13-2012, 01:03 PM	#10
Buffnshine So Cal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: '10 SS/RS, '06 HHR, '70 El Camino Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,589 View My Garage	I had JBA long tube headers put on and it never threw a code. I had them without for several months as a DD and AutoX on weekends kept waiting to see one pop up. I now have a tune back on the car for my AFM __________________ TEAM L99 - So Cal Camaro5 Race Team #27 9/5/09 Purchased #36962 Black 1SS/RS L99 "E-TCKT" Base Dyno 328hp/341tq @BBK meet Mods to Date: Window Tint 5% & 15%, ACC P13W Lighting, Adaptive DRL Harness, Ghost Armor, Lloyds "SS" Mats, Dash Plaque, Flowmaster Outlaw Exhaust, Drake Front Bowtie Delete, Stealth 3457 Chrome/Mirror Signal Bulbs, Grant Revolutions Steering Wheel, PFADT Sport Springs, Sway Bars, End Links, Trailing Arms, 4 Wheel Alignment, Hurst Auto Shifter and Paddle Shifter, Satin Black Rear Tail Light Bezels

03-13-2012, 02:21 PM	#11
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	You might get lucky and the car not throw a CEL. I put some ARH with basically off-roads (they were HF cats that were gutted) and he still hasn't seen a CEL. That's been a good month or so. He is doing the same....not getting a tune until he gets the cam. The CEL is just a small engine light on the dash. It's not nearly as noticable as the CEL I had back when I had my Implala. That thing was big and annoying. You might be ok with the CEL especially if you plan to do the tune not too long from now. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

03-13-2012, 03:15 PM	#12
sschevybear11 Drives: 2011 Black 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: moline,il Posts: 504 View My Garage	I got a CEL within a few miles and even clearing a few times they came right back until tuned. __________________ 2011 Black 1SS M6 12.75@110.91 bone stock Now: Coated Dynatech LT's/!Cats/Hurst Shifter/Roto-fab/SLP SS badges/JRE 415HP Tune, Scoop & Washer Relocation Bottle,Hurst Stunner 20X9 Wheels, Moroso Catch Can, ASP pulley, Magnaflow X-pipe, GTO remote clutch reservoir 1989 Silver 5.0 Mustang LX Coupe 1999 Pewter Tahoe LT 2011 Blue Camry SE

03-13-2012, 09:47 AM	#2
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	Also: I know I will get more out of a tune, but I want the sound and extra little hp now, and not pay for multiple tunes....

03-13-2012, 09:50 AM	#3
texas_boss Drives: 2010 RS/2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 147 View My Garage	Not sure how it is where you live, but here in Houston most if not all shops offer lifetime tune, first session may be like $450, but then after that its free! I know first hand from my dad's C5 with Lt's intake etc etc

03-13-2012, 09:53 AM	#4
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	Most offer tweaks to the original, for instance: I have CAI/Scoop/Xpipe add LT's they'd tune...and if anything needs to be tweaked, they would do so..but if I had a CAM EVERYTHING would need to be re-done therefore they wouldn't just give me a new tune it would cost more $$ Make sense?

03-13-2012, 11:31 AM	#7
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	Either immediately or eventually you will get a CEL with long tube headers. My advice is always to wait on headers until you are ready for a tune and wait for the tune until you are ready to walk away from the warranty.

03-13-2012, 12:40 PM	#9
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	It just depends on how long its going to be until you get your cam setup. If its going to be soon, I'd hold off on the tune. But if you're not getting the cam setup for a while, I'd go ahead and get your car tuned. Some cars with intake and long tubes definitely need a tune. It usually depends on the intake being used. If you're running a ported TB and an intake + long tubes, I'd definitely get a tune.

03-13-2012, 03:23 PM	#13
jmart53 Drives: 2012 Cruze LTZ RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The Badger State Posts: 564	I had to drive around with my Stainless Works LT's on for about a week before I got my tune (the tuner had to reschedule, so that's why there was a wait) but I had no code thrown and it was fine. I didn't beat on it or anything because obviously that would not be a good idea. Good luck! __________________

03-14-2012, 11:58 PM	#14
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Its usually not the header (which are the front 02 sensors), but the cat or off road pipe (rear 02's) that throw the code. I've seen lots of posts of folks using these on the cat or off road pipe and claim they never throw a code. http://www.ebay.com/itm/O2-Oxygen-se..._Parts&vxp=mtr __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

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