03-17-2014, 10:46 AM | #1 |
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Legitimate Fix For Heat Soak
It's no secret that heat soak is a problem for our cars and is, what I believe, the biggest thing holding these cars back from being all they can be. It's also so secret that the real problem is the intercooler. Not so much the heat exchanger, a reservoir helps by increasing capacity, and chillers I'm sure work, but many including myself, don't want to mess with chillers or refrigerant. I'm just wondering, what way can heat soak be combated so that it doesn't heat soak much more rapidly then the GT500, or ZR1. Is there a way to upgrade the intercoolers? Is the only way around this to swap the blower?
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03-17-2014, 12:14 PM | #2 |
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honeslty why would you even think about that with products like the chiller on the market or just he fact that unless you are doing sustained hight speed work just an upgraded HX will take car of it.
I think your buying into the hype too much. now on the flip side if you want to raise the boost to 15spi and run lap after lap then yes I would would run a different blower. even the GT500 guys that do a ton of roadcoarse work swap the 2.3L eatons. for 99% of poeple $800 in mods will fix the heat soak issue for normal driving habbits. I mean you can spend 6k on a new blower if you want but that is not how I would address it on this car.
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I've read a lot of posts about how the ZL1 is more prone to heat soak than other supercharged cars. One of the posts I read directly compared it to the GT500 and they stated that the ZL1 heat soaked much quicker then the GT500 and the GT500 would leave the ZL1 like the ZL1 was "tied to a rock" due to the heat soak on the ZL1. For racing on a road course, would a bigger hx be enough? From what I was reading, it won't help enough and the biggest problem is the intercooler. |
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03-17-2014, 01:18 PM | #4 |
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answer for this is active chiller "superchiller" . I, personally met with the guy who designs these for our cars. He impressed me as very honest, sincere, and intelligent.
He had a demo version, that he showed me, that was made from all high quality materials, it appeared to be very well thought out and professionally made. Mine is due sometime the end of the month. The designer (David) told me he is dealing with a full plate of personal issues right now, and that is why I will need to wait 2 weeks for him to put the kit together. (which is understandable). I was impressed that although I waived a few hundred dollars in front of him as a down payment, he told me, he didn't want anything from me upfront. I heard a different story from someone else, but I believe he treated me this way because I am dealing with a performance shop that is going to install the kit for me. So I am going to pay the shop and the shop will pay him. If this kit does work the way it is designed too, I am going to have a huge advantage when summer time gets here in FLorida. I look forward to posting the results soon. This is his website url. http://www.activeinterchiller.com/5301.html Last edited by Emvici; 03-17-2014 at 01:42 PM. |
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03-17-2014, 02:22 PM | #7 |
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You will not hack your car into pieces with this kit, he showed me the fittings for it, it was all high quality aluminum connections and lines. I can tell you that David had a partner a few years ago that has tried to steal the design from him, and that this person's name is Tracy. This person lists the same product that David showed me when I met him, on this website http://www.revxtreme.com/rx-super-chiller This is exactly what David showed me. From what I hear from David, You DO NOT want to buy this kit from Tracey, apparently tracy can put a pic together but not a kit. He will take the kit and assemble it like crap from what I have heard. So this is what the kit looks like, again I would not trust this tracy person, but I will post this for Pictures sake.
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Here's a thread I put together based on some research I did. I am setting my car up for road racing and cooling is one of the things I will be doing soon.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336563 Quote:
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03-17-2014, 03:28 PM | #9 |
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so has anyone done a dyno pull with this on consecutive pulls to really put a load on the engine? whats the power with it on and without it off like to see how much it makes with the a/c putting a load on the engine while its on.
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03-17-2014, 04:02 PM | #10 |
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I believe for what the superchiller will give back in consistent performance, will easily off-set any mild losses in Hp from using your a/c.
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When you hit the throttle it turns the a/c off so you don't lose any power to the a/c compressor.....but you don't get any cooling when you actually stand on the gas. The chiller really is a good system for heat sink... will keeps intake temps down at the drag strip when idling or when your car is off.... but at sustained speed it will not work.
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03-17-2014, 06:15 PM | #13 |
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anyone have an idea/guess of what the water temperature leaving the intercooler would be approximately and what it might be returning back to the intercooler with a stock Hx on say a 90 degree day?.
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03-17-2014, 06:22 PM | #14 |
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Thought this was cool. Probably my next purchase.
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