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Jiu Jitsu Jon · 10-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Mr. Fbodfather:

I know you represent GM, I was curious...is Pontiac really on the short list of brands to go the way of Oldsmobile? Or is that just rumor?

Also, and if you can't answer this in detail I understand, but what is the future direction of Pontiac? Is it moving more towards the direction of the G8 or will the brand get another "muscle" car anytime in the near future?

BowtieGuy · 10-19-2008, 11:41 PM

I know I'm not the one the question is directed to, but the short answer is, no. GMC will go before Pontiac goes, since GMC has no overly unique vehicles, unlike Pontiac.

As far as direction goes, I think it is obvious from recent commercials that Pontiac is GM's future European fighter.

FenwickHockey65 · 10-19-2008, 11:49 PM

Future product plans do not have GMC or Pontiac going anywhere. Nothing is set in stone yet, but sources say that GMC will soon focus more on crossovers while Pontiac will be receiving a few new products, the G3 (BLECH), an all-new G5, possibly based off the Cruze (WHY?!?!), and a sedan to slot between the two cars (G4?). The G6 will transition to the new Epsilon II platform in the near future and is predicted to be a rebadge of the next-gen EpII Malibu (NOOO!!!). The Solstice is dead once its model life ends as the Kappa Platform is dying as well. We haven't heard anything about a next-gen G8...

But again, these are just well-founded rumors and speculation.

Iroczlover · 10-20-2008, 10:02 PM

GMC you guys have to remember is the Professional grade stuff & their fleet trucks/vans/SUV/Crossovers. Yes while I understand that they can use the chevy side to fleet stuff out (which they do) but GMC just is better for most companies. I drive a Chevy Fleet style van.

That is all that GMC sells. They dont sell cars they sell TRUCKS.

Believe me the truck side of things are not dead or will never die out.

Pontiac is getting new life breathed back in to it with the G8 srpots truck (which I think should be on the chevy side, but its not up to the buyers)

FenwickHockey65 · 10-20-2008, 10:59 PM

GMC/Chevy share the same vehicles, but GMC has a much more upscale feel. For example, my Envoy's interior looks much more luxurious than a comparable Trailblazer's. While the Trailblazer's vents bulge out from the dash, my Envoy's vents are blended in and ringed with chrome accents.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 10-21-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Iroczlover

Pontiac is getting new life breathed back in to it with the G8 srpots truck

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.

BowtieGuy · 10-21-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.

That thing could end up selling like the SSR, or the HHR, only time will tell.

drivingincamaro · 10-21-2008, 08:39 PM

a quick g8 question

will the g8 get the cadillac cts 3.6 di v6 engine in 2010 or 2009?

BowtieGuy · 10-21-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

a quick g8 question

will the g8 get the cadillac cts 3.6 di v6 engine in 2010 or 2009?

Probably the same time the G8 GXP comes out.

fbodfather · 10-21-2008, 08:46 PM

getting rid of a brand is frighteningly expensive......

We have contracts with our dealers - and when you 'eliminate' a Division - you open up quite a can of worms -- we are still working thru the closing of the Oldsmobile Division.

Pontiac has a reason for being - the REAL question is: where is the future of the American Auto Industry?

MY PERSONAL OPINION: I think it's high time Americans started to think about what's in the best interests of the country as a whole - rather than "what's in the best interests of ME!" -

bouncertime · 10-21-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

MY PERSONAL OPINION: I think it's high time Americans started to think about what's in the best interests of the country as a whole - rather than "what's in the best interests of ME!" -

:flag2::flag2:

*CamaroSpike23* · 10-21-2008, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

getting rid of a brand is frighteningly expensive......

We have contracts with our dealers - and when you 'eliminate' a Division - you open up quite a can of worms -- we are still working thru the closing of the Oldsmobile Division.

Pontiac has a reason for being - the REAL question is: where is the future of the American Auto Industry?

MY PERSONAL OPINION: I think it's high time Americans started to think about what's in the best interests of the country as a whole - rather than "what's in the best interests of ME!" -

trooof!

flaguy · 10-21-2008, 10:00 PM

I certainly can't speak for GM or anyone else, but the G8 is the first Pontiac vehicle that actually made me stop, get out of my car, and look at the vehicle without me even having intentions to go look at cars. I just happened to drive by a lot and see the G8 and thought "Damn, that's nice. I'm gonna go look at it".

That being said, I think they're taking steps in the right direction.

digitalshow · 10-21-2008, 10:15 PM

Me too...I was just passing by the lot headed some where and actually stopped to check out the white G8 they had parked next to the road. It was very slick indeed. After test driving it...I actually considered buying it instead of waiting for the Camaro...but then I slapped myself and got my senses back. Nice car...but I'm glad I waited for Camaro!

Tony B.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaguy

I certainly can't speak for GM or anyone else, but the G8 is the first Pontiac vehicle that actually made me stop, get out of my car, and look at the vehicle without me even having intentions to go look at cars. I just happened to drive by a lot and see the G8 and thought "Damn, that's nice. I'm gonna go look at it".

That being said, I think they're taking steps in the right direction.

10-19-2008, 11:22 PM	#1
Jiu Jitsu Jon East bound and down Drives: 2005 Cyclone Grey GTO (M6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 406	Fbodfather - Pontiac question Mr. Fbodfather: I know you represent GM, I was curious...is Pontiac really on the short list of brands to go the way of Oldsmobile? Or is that just rumor? Also, and if you can't answer this in detail I understand, but what is the future direction of Pontiac? Is it moving more towards the direction of the G8 or will the brand get another "muscle" car anytime in the near future? __________________ BITCHIN' CAMARO, BITCHIN' CAMARO!

10-19-2008, 11:41 PM	#2
BowtieGuy Enlightened Drives: Nothing Currently Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,285	I know I'm not the one the question is directed to, but the short answer is, no. GMC will go before Pontiac goes, since GMC has no overly unique vehicles, unlike Pontiac. As far as direction goes, I think it is obvious from recent commercials that Pontiac is GM's future European fighter. __________________ If you believe it is your right to speak freely no matter the content, relevance, or intelligence of statement, then it is my duty to the powers that be to set you straight. People have to talk about something just to keep their voice boxes in working order. So they'll have good voice boxes in case there's ever anything really meaningful to say. Kurt Vonnegut

10-19-2008, 11:49 PM	#3
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	Future product plans do not have GMC or Pontiac going anywhere. Nothing is set in stone yet, but sources say that GMC will soon focus more on crossovers while Pontiac will be receiving a few new products, the G3 (BLECH), an all-new G5, possibly based off the Cruze (WHY?!?!), and a sedan to slot between the two cars (G4?). The G6 will transition to the new Epsilon II platform in the near future and is predicted to be a rebadge of the next-gen EpII Malibu (NOOO!!!). The Solstice is dead once its model life ends as the Kappa Platform is dying as well. We haven't heard anything about a next-gen G8... But again, these are just well-founded rumors and speculation. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

10-20-2008, 10:02 PM	#4
Iroczlover The Krazzy bytch Drives: Which car I have 9 vehicles? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Yelm, wa, Hell if I think about it to much Posts: 7,919	GMC you guys have to remember is the Professional grade stuff & their fleet trucks/vans/SUV/Crossovers. Yes while I understand that they can use the chevy side to fleet stuff out (which they do) but GMC just is better for most companies. I drive a Chevy Fleet style van. That is all that GMC sells. They dont sell cars they sell TRUCKS. Believe me the truck side of things are not dead or will never die out. Pontiac is getting new life breathed back in to it with the G8 srpots truck (which I think should be on the chevy side, but its not up to the buyers) __________________ Heart breaks everyday when you cant take care of your family because you are unemployed, cant give your family what you want or what they need I am not a man I have boobies. Cars are like women, If you treat her rough shes going to complain & you will hear about it. If you treat her right she will purrrrrrrrrrrrr Current cars owned , 72 Skylark vert,86 fiero GT Sold , 87 Iroc-z (sold), 90 Vette Vert SOLD , 95 Z28, 99 Silverado K1500 Totaled, 2010 CGM Camaro 2ss/rs (had to sell & I hate it ) ,2012 Cruze LT repoed. Current current list lol 2006 Silverado 2500hd.

10-20-2008, 10:59 PM	#5
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	GMC/Chevy share the same vehicles, but GMC has a much more upscale feel. For example, my Envoy's interior looks much more luxurious than a comparable Trailblazer's. While the Trailblazer's vents bulge out from the dash, my Envoy's vents are blended in and ringed with chrome accents. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

10-21-2008, 08:39 PM	#8
drivingincamaro Drives: 95 civic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 5,796	a quick g8 question will the g8 get the cadillac cts 3.6 di v6 engine in 2010 or 2009? __________________

10-21-2008, 08:46 PM	#10
fbodfather Drives: Camaros................ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seven Fields, PA (Pittsburgh) Posts: 4,523	getting rid of a brand is frighteningly expensive...... We have contracts with our dealers - and when you 'eliminate' a Division - you open up quite a can of worms -- we are still working thru the closing of the Oldsmobile Division. Pontiac has a reason for being - the REAL question is: where is the future of the American Auto Industry? MY PERSONAL OPINION: I think it's high time Americans started to think about what's in the best interests of the country as a whole - rather than "what's in the best interests of ME!" -

10-21-2008, 10:00 PM	#13
flaguy Drives: 2014 2SS RS Spring Edition Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ga Posts: 230	I certainly can't speak for GM or anyone else, but the G8 is the first Pontiac vehicle that actually made me stop, get out of my car, and look at the vehicle without me even having intentions to go look at cars. I just happened to drive by a lot and see the G8 and thought "Damn, that's nice. I'm gonna go look at it". That being said, I think they're taking steps in the right direction.

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