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Shady4 · 01-15-2014, 09:48 PM

Hey guys,

I have LT headers, highflow cats, magnaflow tru x pipe, and borla s-type mufflers and ever since I added the x pipe the drone has been horrible. Before I was able to cope with it just slightly coming in around 1600rpm's but now its so much worse at around the same rpms.

I've heard of ways like installing a J pipe to eliminate the drone effect and was wondering what your guys' thoughts were about it, how much it cost you, or if anything else has worked for you.

Thank you!

BubbaSS · 01-15-2014, 10:14 PM

Curious, why did you go x pipe?

Shady4 · 01-15-2014, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BubbaSS

Curious, why did you go x pipe?

I wanted to do the resonator delete on my l99 and read that x pipe was a good choice for a tiny bit extra HP and torque.

BubbaSS · 01-15-2014, 11:27 PM

The J pipe will remove drone if done properly. Our stock muffler is basically straight pipe with a j pipe. I would assume that the j would need to go downstream the borla to effectively remove drone. Hopefully someone has done this with your setup or similar and can confirm, but it seems like common sense to me based on the stock muffler downstream from the resonator.

BubbaSS · 01-15-2014, 11:44 PM

Found this old thread with great info. This guy made j pipes upstream some glasspacks (I think) :\

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=helmholtz

axis · 01-16-2014, 02:39 AM

You could switch to a resonated X pipe and get it back to where you were.

Mwalterhouse · 01-16-2014, 05:07 AM

Resonated X pipe is the solution.

Apex Motorsports · 01-16-2014, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

You could switch to a resonated X pipe and get it back to where you were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mwalterhouse

Resonated X pipe is the solution.

This is a pretty effective solution.

VR Baron · 01-16-2014, 10:08 AM

I did a resonated x pipe on my LS3, with only an outlaw axelback, and did not reduce the drone much at all. J pipes will do it. Get photos of the Solo ones and take to a good muffler shop. They can take two 180 degree sections per side, 2.25" diameter is fine, cut and weld to an S shape to the correct length(you need to give them that, about 28" or so) they cut a hole in your pipes right ahead of the mufflers, they will determine where to fit everything. My guy even fabbed up adjustable end caps so you can change the length depending where the drone is(rpm)
Cost me $150 lot and killed the drone, just exhaust sound now.

Birm · 01-16-2014, 10:27 AM

J Pipes are an excellent option. The Resonated X-didnt do much for me... just my $37 and change.

01-15-2014, 09:48 PM	#1
Shady4 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 30	Drone strikes again Hey guys, I have LT headers, highflow cats, magnaflow tru x pipe, and borla s-type mufflers and ever since I added the x pipe the drone has been horrible. Before I was able to cope with it just slightly coming in around 1600rpm's but now its so much worse at around the same rpms. I've heard of ways like installing a J pipe to eliminate the drone effect and was wondering what your guys' thoughts were about it, how much it cost you, or if anything else has worked for you. Thank you! __________________ 2010 SS/RS L99 1 7/8 LT with high flow cats, Magnaflow tru X Pipe, K&N CAI.

01-15-2014, 10:14 PM	#2
BubbaSS WHAT RED LIGHT?! Drives: 2011 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,115	Curious, why did you go x pipe? __________________ 2011 2SS/RS M6 BLACK - VARARAM NO TUNE INTAKE, MODDED AND PORTED TB, PORTED INTAKE MANIFOLD, VITESSE THROTTLE CONTROLLER, DOUG THORLEY LT'S, CATLESS, X-PIPE, 25" STAINLESS WORKS RETRO CHAMBERED MUFFLERS, CUSTOM 2.5" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST, RICHMOND 4.10 GEARS, CUSTOM CAM (231/242 @ 114LSA), MUSTANG DYNO TUNED BY TORQ, 20% CERAMIC TINTS, EIBACH PROKIT SPRINGS 1" DROP, HAWK PERFORMANCE CERAMIC BRAKES, NITTO INVO TIRES, HYDROCARBON TAIL LIGHT AND FOG LIGHT BEZELS BY EMBLEMPROS, METRA DASH KIT, JVC KW-AV71BT, PHOENIX GOLD iAMP GM1, PASSPORT QI45 - 450 RWHP 415 RWTQ

01-15-2014, 11:27 PM	#4
BubbaSS WHAT RED LIGHT?! Drives: 2011 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,115	The J pipe will remove drone if done properly. Our stock muffler is basically straight pipe with a j pipe. I would assume that the j would need to go downstream the borla to effectively remove drone. Hopefully someone has done this with your setup or similar and can confirm, but it seems like common sense to me based on the stock muffler downstream from the resonator. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS M6 BLACK - VARARAM NO TUNE INTAKE, MODDED AND PORTED TB, PORTED INTAKE MANIFOLD, VITESSE THROTTLE CONTROLLER, DOUG THORLEY LT'S, CATLESS, X-PIPE, 25" STAINLESS WORKS RETRO CHAMBERED MUFFLERS, CUSTOM 2.5" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST, RICHMOND 4.10 GEARS, CUSTOM CAM (231/242 @ 114LSA), MUSTANG DYNO TUNED BY TORQ, 20% CERAMIC TINTS, EIBACH PROKIT SPRINGS 1" DROP, HAWK PERFORMANCE CERAMIC BRAKES, NITTO INVO TIRES, HYDROCARBON TAIL LIGHT AND FOG LIGHT BEZELS BY EMBLEMPROS, METRA DASH KIT, JVC KW-AV71BT, PHOENIX GOLD iAMP GM1, PASSPORT QI45 - 450 RWHP 415 RWTQ

01-15-2014, 11:44 PM	#5
BubbaSS WHAT RED LIGHT?! Drives: 2011 Black Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,115	Found this old thread with great info. This guy made j pipes upstream some glasspacks (I think) :\ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ight=helmholtz __________________ 2011 2SS/RS M6 BLACK - VARARAM NO TUNE INTAKE, MODDED AND PORTED TB, PORTED INTAKE MANIFOLD, VITESSE THROTTLE CONTROLLER, DOUG THORLEY LT'S, CATLESS, X-PIPE, 25" STAINLESS WORKS RETRO CHAMBERED MUFFLERS, CUSTOM 2.5" MANDREL BENT EXHAUST, RICHMOND 4.10 GEARS, CUSTOM CAM (231/242 @ 114LSA), MUSTANG DYNO TUNED BY TORQ, 20% CERAMIC TINTS, EIBACH PROKIT SPRINGS 1" DROP, HAWK PERFORMANCE CERAMIC BRAKES, NITTO INVO TIRES, HYDROCARBON TAIL LIGHT AND FOG LIGHT BEZELS BY EMBLEMPROS, METRA DASH KIT, JVC KW-AV71BT, PHOENIX GOLD iAMP GM1, PASSPORT QI45 - 450 RWHP 415 RWTQ

01-16-2014, 02:39 AM	#6
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	You could switch to a resonated X pipe and get it back to where you were. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

01-16-2014, 05:07 AM	#7
Mwalterhouse Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan Posts: 1,088 View My Garage	Resonated X pipe is the solution.

01-16-2014, 10:08 AM	#9
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	I did a resonated x pipe on my LS3, with only an outlaw axelback, and did not reduce the drone much at all. J pipes will do it. Get photos of the Solo ones and take to a good muffler shop. They can take two 180 degree sections per side, 2.25" diameter is fine, cut and weld to an S shape to the correct length(you need to give them that, about 28" or so) they cut a hole in your pipes right ahead of the mufflers, they will determine where to fit everything. My guy even fabbed up adjustable end caps so you can change the length depending where the drone is(rpm) Cost me $150 lot and killed the drone, just exhaust sound now.

01-16-2014, 10:27 AM	#10
Birm Drives: Florida Speed & Power Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 3,185	J Pipes are an excellent option. The Resonated X-didnt do much for me... just my $37 and change.