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Old 06-18-2011, 05:41 PM   #15
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love the lights scott and congrats!!!!
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:50 PM   #16
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:53 PM   #17
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What are the difference in the European fuel? Also I like the spoiler, the tail lights are alright, but I still like ours better. To me though the mirrors are a deal breaker, they just seem too large, but I get that they serve a purpose and in all fairness I have not seen them in person.

Hey Fbod, you had better get to cleaning out that little forest growing in your gutters. I laugh because I spent all day cleaning the trees out from mine.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:56 PM   #18
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What are the difference in the European fuel? Also I like the spoiler, the tail lights are alright, but I still like ours better. To me though the mirrors are a deal breaker, they just seem too large, but I get that they serve a purpose and in all fairness I have not seen them in person.

Hey Fbod, you had better get to cleaning out that little forest growing in your gutters. I laugh because I spent all day cleaning the trees out from mine.
There is no difference between the molecular make up of European fuel vs. US Fuel. It's all the same hydrocarbon ranges for the most part.

The only differences are additives, which are vendor specific, and environmental contaminant regulations. And for the most part, I believe the EU specs are much much tighter than US regulations.

On topic though, I dig the tail lamps. Too bad it doesn't look like you could retrofit them into the US models.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:58 PM   #19
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There is no difference between the molecular make up of European fuel vs. US Fuel. It's all the same hydrocarbon ranges for the most part.

The only differences are additives, which are vendor specific, and environmental contaminant regulations. And for the most part, I believe the EU specs are much much tighter than US regulations.

On topic though, I dig the tail lamps. Too bad it doesn't look like you could retrofit them into the US models.
Thanks for the explanation, so when driving it here in the states I imagine that 93 is still needed?
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:05 PM   #20
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Nice!! Those LEDs look a LOT better in person.. trust me!

You wouldn't mind taking a road trip to the Cape for some close up action would ya??

I saw them in person on the tour. Elton John is Elton John whether you see him in person or on the Internet. Poor, poor Europeans.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:10 PM   #21
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Thanks for the explanation, so when driving it here in the states I imagine that 93 is still needed?
If you want to keep your warranty, yes.

However, and I will get flogged for this, modern Internal Combustion Engines have advanced so far that I honestly believe fuel octane ratings don't really hurt engines anymore.

It used to be the higher octane fuels were the cleaner and than base grades. However, with all refining industry expansions and environmental regs that have come into affect, most refiners make super premium fuels and then blend in different components to get the lower octane ratings. None of which are "dirty" they just have different hydrocarbon components in them which help produce a net lower octane rating (aka higher vapor pressures/ more lighter components in the fuel).

My car is supposed to run on medium grade gasoline and I've been putting in 87 octane since I bought it used and I've never had knocking or performance related problems with my car.

However, on a car under warranty I would follow all recommendations until the warranty expires on its own.

And don't get me started on 3000 mile oil changes.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:15 PM   #22
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Enjoy the new ride. But............................I'm glad I live in the USA for even more reasons now. Just not a fan of those differences.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:55 PM   #23
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thanks for sharing, IBM looks good.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:02 PM   #24
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:27 PM   #25
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I've been in Camaros since 1985, so I'm a big fan. But I don't like that at all. And they still won't upgrade that grille...
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:44 PM   #26
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the mirrors seriously ruin it
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:51 PM   #27
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First off you won't void the warranty running 87 in an SS. Nor will you have performance issues. You just won't have any performance. Sure run 87, the computer will detune the car to match and you will miss out over a few cents per gallon. Seems a shame to buy a high performance engine and then purposely turn off the performance. Go with a 4 banger
I have had dealers deny warranty claims for stupider reasons before.

Otherwise, I've never owned a performance engine car before. So I don't know how they manage fuel quality, or if they even notice it. Because the only way to measure octane is on a lab bench. No car has the ability to determine the octane level in a production car.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:54 PM   #28
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