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Old 01-17-2018, 08:42 AM   #57
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Agreed. I think that unexpected happening was the ZL1 1LE...... I don't think they expected Chevy to drop the LT4 in a Camaro, keep it at full HP TQ like the vette version, wrap it in the most track capable Camaro ever built (suspension/Aero/etc) and get it in customer's garages by July of 2017.

I think that had them back at the drawing board playing catch up.

So.....I think it isn't a big deal if a year and 1/2 later a Mustang that will be unattainable under $100k comes out with 50 or 60 more HP. You will see very few of any of them on the track - and - that gives Chevy 18 months to leapfrog the GT500. Again.

That's why they call it the "Pony car wars".....its good for all of us that like fast muscle cars....enjoy it while it lasts!!







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Something doesn't add up with the timing of this announcement. To me, I feel like the car will arrive much sooner to surprise everyone... or Ford had something unexpected happen that delayed the planned debut.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:33 AM   #58
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Everyone says that when the other guy beats you to the stripe first. These lap times are nice and all but 99.5 percent of these things will be on the street with everyday cars. All the gt500 has to do is perform at least closely to the zl1 at the ring and have a decent ride quality for the street, it doesn't has to surpass it. But if it stomps it at the dragstrip like the last version did to the Camaro at that time then it will be a hit. Bragging about ring times when you live in upstate New York doesn't mean a hill of beans to the guy sitting at the stoplight to you in traffic.
Agree, agree, agree, its the street action and the 1/4 mile action that most of the people that buy these cars are doing. Its all about the common Joe like you and me.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:40 AM   #59
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4 pages of the ZL1 in comparison to the gt500, when it wasn't made to compete with the gt500, hellcat, demon, whatever. the Z06 and the ZR1 are our bread winners in that regard. enjoy being the fastest around a track, that's what our cars are made for...
If the ZL1 wasn't made to compete with the GT500 or the hellcat , what was it built for. For sure the GT500 was built to compete against the ZL1 and the hellcat.
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:21 AM   #60
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Lol, when the LT5 hits the Camaro in 2 years it will be unstoppable.
Ah yes, I forgot about all those LS9 ZL1's they built in response to the 5.8 GT500

I would be very surprised if they put the LT5 in the Camaro
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Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:59 PM   #61
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If the ZL1 wasn't made to compete with the GT500 or the hellcat , what was it built for. For sure the GT500 was built to compete against the ZL1 and the hellcat.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:31 PM   #62
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some guys made some renders
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:57 PM   #63
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Those renders look pretty good to me, but I think it would look better with out the blacked out section in the grill
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Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:05 PM   #64
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That hood vent
LMAO... It does look like a remora.
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:30 AM   #66
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I hope when the GT500 specs are released GM announces (the very next day) they will drop the LT5 in the Camaro.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:12 AM   #67
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Here’s the 2019 GT500’s 5.2L Predator Engine

It all started with the leaked engine cover, then the CAD images we showed you, and now we have a real deal photo of the 2019 GT500 5.2L supercharged “Predator” engine thanks to our friends at Lethal Performance.
Some of the details we’ve known for some time but the Lethal crew has confirmed the Predator engine is a cross-plane 5.2-liter V8 with a Eaton 2.65-liter TVS @ 12psi supercharger and 10:1 compression ratio.
We’re also hearing that Ford may have sourced the Tremec TR-9007 7-speed dual clutch transmission for a huge boost in performance and efficiency.
The debate is on in the forums about whether the next GT500 will make 700-horsepower at the wheels or crank, so let’s hear your thoughts!
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:07 AM   #68
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It will be 700+ Crank, those boys are dreaming if they think it will be 700 wheel.

Only way I see that happening is if Fords claim of 700+ ends up being on the high side.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:37 AM   #69
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It will be 700+ Crank, those boys are dreaming if they think it will be 700 wheel.

Only way I see that happening is if Fords claim of 700+ ends up being on the high side.
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Exactly, we all remember how the '13 GT500 was teased at "upwards of 600 hp". And it barely made that.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:50 AM   #70
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Exactly, we all remember how the '13 GT500 was teased at "upwards of 600 hp". And it barely made that.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...py-photos-news
I am not a Ford fan, but at 662 hp for the 13 GT500 isn't considered barely making a projection of "upwards of 600 hp" they clobbered it.
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