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Old 06-09-2012, 11:39 PM   #155
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What if it doesn't come out for another 1.5 years, by then your trade equity will have increased and you could start a "Z" fund that could lower what you will be borrowing, thus putting you in an affordable payment zone...just a suggestion.
No matter how you slice it upgrading for me on a cost/value basis just does not fly. As My car ages, it is worth less.

My "Z" fund currently is going to supporting three graduate degrees. To me right now this i more important that scratching my itches.

I will have to be happy having near LS7 Z28 performance without the badge or the magic 427.

Strange, if you look at the numbers, my cheapest route to a Z28 would be for me to sell my LS3 and install an LS7 on my own.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:40 PM   #156
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Well see the problem is the ZL1 isnt what I want. I'd rather have a Z28.
According to GM Boss bashing is possible with a 1LE.
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:30 AM   #157
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The Boss has some very impressive numbers. Id love to see the 1LE beat it.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:34 PM   #158
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Rumor has it a 2013 Boss beat a 2013 ZL1 from a roll. That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:33 PM   #159
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That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
That, to me, would have been like "the other side" saying "A GT with Track Pack? That's all we need, below the 500..."

If a 1LE is a really good car with 426 hp, what would it be like with 475-505 hp? And will it "fit" between a 1LE and ZL1, price-wise AND performance-wise?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:57 PM   #160
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Rumor has it a 2013 Boss beat a 2013 ZL1 from a roll. That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
Not, I think. Cheaper yes.

ZL1 > Boss and 1LE

Since the 1LE is not out yet:

Boss ? 1LE

There may be different answers in different places. The best the 1LE can hope for:

Road Course: 1LE > Boss
Drags: Boss > 1LE

But this is the Z28 forum so I predict:

Road Course: Z28 > Boss
Drags: Z28 > Boss
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:07 PM   #161
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Rumor has it a 2013 Boss beat a 2013 ZL1 from a roll. That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:22 PM   #162
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Rumor has it a 2013 Boss beat a 2013 ZL1 from a roll. That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
Are you refering to that video of a street race that began circulating recently?

If so, rumour also has it that while the ZL1 was stock, the Boss was not.
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Rumor has it a 2013 Boss beat a 2013 ZL1 from a roll. That is good news for the 1LE as I think it could be the best performing Camaro and cheaper than the ZL1.
The 1LE is not as good as the ZL1!! It has a lot of the performance handling package of the ZL1, but not all.
for 1, It does not have the Magnetic Ride of the ZL1.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:32 PM   #164
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This is what we think a Z/28 should be.

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Old 06-12-2012, 08:47 AM   #165
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Are you refering to that video of a street race that began circulating recently?

If so, rumour also has it that while the ZL1 was stock, the Boss was not.
<Hypothetical rumor>True, the Boss wasn't stock, but it wasn't heavily modified either. What an intake, x-pipe, and tune? I don't think it's pushing out the horsies that a ZL1 is.<Hypothetical rumor>

Ok, maybe the 1LE just can't possibly be as good as a ZL1 for sole purpose of having a hierarchy. But the ZL1 is sort of underachieving, as far as hype and expectations, as of right now. I know, I just blasphemed the face of the mighty one.

Anyway, write this down. When the Z28 comes out it will be better than the ZL1.
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The 1LE is not as good as the ZL1!! It has a lot of the performance handling package of the ZL1, but not all.
for 1, It does not have the Magnetic Ride of the ZL1.
One very important nod for the 1LE?

200 fewer pounds (as a 1SS), pretty much right off the schnozz...
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Devils advocate, it's a lot easier to put an LS7 in a car that it's already in. You're right though, no better way to end gen5. And if it's already in the works, we could enjoy 2 or more full model years of Z28.
It can't be that hard, they dropped an LSA into a Camaro. The LS7 doesn't have the supercharger to deal with.
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It can't be that hard, they dropped an LSA into a Camaro. The LS7 doesn't have the supercharger to deal with.
We have heard on this site that you can't just plug and play drivetrains into a vehicle. It can definitely be done. If its profitable, lives up to expectations in performance and price and fits in the Camaro lineup there's a good chance we will see a Z28.
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