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ssmike · 07-02-2013, 07:51 AM

Any other comments or suggestions regarding my tuning questions from yesterday, or should I have posted this in the tuning forum?

thahemp · 07-02-2013, 07:55 AM

Sorry ssmike. I thought about you yesterday, then got sidetracked. I seem to remember this coming up with someone else and they added a breather cap. Let me find what i'm thinking of before i say for sure though.

Edit

Just re-read your first post. Sounds like a different issue than what i was thinking...

Mchlgrrsn · 07-02-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

Any other comments or suggestions regarding my tuning questions from yesterday, or should I have posted this in the tuning forum?

Are you throwing any lean codes ? Unmetered air not accounted for in tune will usually do that. P0171 or P0174 or both

thahemp · 07-02-2013, 08:30 AM

I think he might be suggesting that the air was accounted for in the tune, even though it didn't show up on the MAF. His tuner probably still would have noticed a big leak at the throttle body coupler, but who knows? Do you have any means of logging your trims ssmike? If you're running ultra-rich with it sealed, then maybe he saw it on the wideband and richened up your fueling for a leak? I would hope not.

Monitoring trims is another thing you can do with your OBDII module and Torque Jeff.

thahemp · 07-02-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

I bypassed the catch can and it ran like crap. My tuner said it was tuned with it in so I can't bypass it. Where is your's mounted? I had to mount mine where the stock cai was because of the VR but it added 3' of hose (6' total round trip). Is that why?

Who is your tuner? I've never heard of tuning a catch can

. If it's hooked up right it shouldn't dick with anything.

Mchlgrrsn · 07-02-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JEFF75645

Cool. I should have it Wednesday. Just added the knock sensor add on.Thanks

Gonna use my Samsung tablet also.

Knock sensor reading is quite valuable ... Nice .. Really wish dash command had it. Stupid iPhone doesn't work with torque .. This may help, arkon makes nice mount for your tablet its like 25 bucks on amazon bolts onto seat rail. Mine should be here today.
Arkon tab-fsm

Mchlgrrsn · 07-02-2013, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

I think he might be suggesting that the air was accounted for in the tune, even though it didn't show up on the MAF. His tuner probably still would have noticed a big leak at the throttle body coupler, but who knows? Do you have any means of logging your trims ssmike? If you're running ultra-rich with it sealed, then maybe he saw it on the wideband and richened up your fueling for a leak? I would hope not.

Monitoring trims is another thing you can do with your OBDII module and Torque Jeff.

Now I understand. You think the tuner compensated for the extra air. Monitor it with a scan tool or ask the tuner directly. Asking the tuner directly would be your best bet. You have a valid concern due to the fittings not being sealed properly.

Mchlgrrsn · 07-02-2013, 09:31 AM

For good measure make sure you have a strong maf sensor. Probably not relevant but when eliminating problems it's good to be systematic

JEFF75645 · 07-02-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

Knock sensor reading is quite valuable ... Nice .. Really wish dash command had it. Stupid iPhone doesn't work with torque .. This may help, arkon makes nice mount for your tablet its like 25 bucks on amazon bolts onto seat rail. Mine should be here today.
Arkon tab-fsm

Just ordered that also. Thanks for the heads up.

thahemp · 07-02-2013, 09:32 AM

Indeed it is.

ssmike · 07-02-2013, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

Sorry ssmike. I thought about you yesterday, then got sidetracked. I seem to remember this coming up with someone else and they added a breather cap. Let me find what i'm thinking of before i say for sure though.

Edit

Just re-read your first post. Sounds like a different issue than what i was thinking...

Check into it anyways for the hell of it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

Are you throwing any lean codes ? Unmetered air not accounted for in tune will usually do that. P0171 or P0174 or both

No codes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

I think he might be suggesting that the air was accounted for in the tune, even though it didn't show up on the MAF. His tuner probably still would have noticed a big leak at the throttle body coupler, but who knows? Do you have any means of logging your trims ssmike? If you're running ultra-rich with it sealed, then maybe he saw it on the wideband and richened up your fueling for a leak? I would hope not.

Monitoring trims is another thing you can do with your OBDII module and Torque Jeff.

No means for datalogging.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

Who is your tuner? I've never heard of tuning a catch can

. If it's hooked up right it shouldn't dick with anything.

He said that the tune was done with the catch can in line so it needs to remain in line. Removing it with the OE bypass will affect the performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

Now I understand. You think the tuner compensated for the extra air. Monitor it with a scan tool or ask the tuner directly. Asking the tuner directly would be your best bet. You have a valid concern due to the fittings not being sealed properly.

I'll be calling him today or tomorrow when I get a chance! (friggin work schedule)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mchlgrrsn

For good measure make sure you have a strong maf sensor. Probably not relevant but when eliminating problems it's good to be systematic

Definatly have a strong MAF in there!

mikeyg36 · 07-02-2013, 10:01 AM

What's up?

TURBO CHARGER

thahemp · 07-02-2013, 10:04 AM

Morning Mike. Killing time at work. I don't feel like working today...

mikeyg36 · 07-02-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Morning Mike. Killing time at work. I don't feel like working today...

I don't feel like working tonight

luckily I'm not closing and I won't get out at 12.

07-02-2013, 07:55 AM	#3628
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Sorry ssmike. I thought about you yesterday, then got sidetracked. I seem to remember this coming up with someone else and they added a breather cap. Let me find what i'm thinking of before i say for sure though. Edit Just re-read your first post. Sounds like a different issue than what i was thinking... __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x Last edited by thahemp; 07-02-2013 at 08:09 AM.

07-02-2013, 08:30 AM	#3630
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	I think he might be suggesting that the air was accounted for in the tune, even though it didn't show up on the MAF. His tuner probably still would have noticed a big leak at the throttle body coupler, but who knows? Do you have any means of logging your trims ssmike? If you're running ultra-rich with it sealed, then maybe he saw it on the wideband and richened up your fueling for a leak? I would hope not. Monitoring trims is another thing you can do with your OBDII module and Torque Jeff. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-02-2013, 09:31 AM	#3634
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	For good measure make sure you have a strong maf sensor. Probably not relevant but when eliminating problems it's good to be systematic __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

07-02-2013, 09:32 AM	#3636
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Indeed it is. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-02-2013, 10:04 AM	#3639
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Morning Mike. Killing time at work. I don't feel like working today... __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-02-2013, 07:51 AM	#3627
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	Any other comments or suggestions regarding my tuning questions from yesterday, or should I have posted this in the tuning forum?

07-02-2013, 10:01 AM	#3638
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