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Old 06-25-2009, 08:06 AM   #1
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More dumb salespeople at Bob Howard in OKC

Heard they had a CGM SS at Bob Howard in Oklahoma City. Since I was in the area yesterday, I stopped by to check it out. A young salesperson proceeded to tell me about this car. Just being interested in looking at the color and not really wanting to talk about why I'm there if I ordered from someone else, I just kinda played like I knew little and let him spill. First he told me the car was listed at $5000 over MSRP and I would be lucky to find one anywhere for less than 10. He said some people have said other dealers (mentioned Knipplemeir, the one I ordered from) have been selling at MSRP but it is simply not true. I asked when he thought they would start going for less than MSRP and he said never. He claimed GM was limiting production and you will not see them all over like Mustangs. I asked if they are only planning a couple years and he said it is likely. He then proceeded to tell me of all the exotic cars he has driven and the SS is hands down the baddest car he has ever driven. Now, I know this is an opinion, but come on. He said the Camaro would keep up with the Vette, no problem and also said it was a tad lighter than the Vette. Really? Not by much, but it's lighter.

I cannot stand salespeople like this. GM is having a hard enough time as it is. If you are in the central OK area, please say no to Bob Howard. You will be better off at Knipplemeir or Marc Heitz.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:54 AM   #2
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Lol... salespeople these days.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:00 AM   #3
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I love playing dumb and letting salesmen/women talk and make an ass of themselves without them knowing it. Isn't it fun!?!?!
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:08 AM   #4
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i had a bad experience with them when i was trying my charger. trying to tell me i couldn’t afford it and my credit wasn’t good enough. and tried to sell me a damn dodge stratus. well i bought one from Dallas. and i bought my camaro from Hudiburg (under msrp)
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:33 PM   #5
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bob howard/moore dealerships are the worst ive seen
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:49 AM   #6
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i had a bad experience with them when i was trying my charger. trying to tell me i couldn’t afford it and my credit wasn’t good enough. and tried to sell me a damn dodge stratus. well i bought one from Dallas. and i bought my camaro from Hudiburg (under msrp)
Under MSRP?? Did you have some discount or something from GM? Did you order and they agreed to a lower price? I went there about a year ago and they told me no way would it be selling for MSRP or lower.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:51 AM   #7
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i got the USAA discount. 750 dollars off. they said i pay msrp and any initiatives that are available i can have.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:56 AM   #8
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Heard they had a CGM SS at Bob Howard in Oklahoma City. Since I was in the area yesterday, I stopped by to check it out. A young salesperson proceeded to tell me about this car. Just being interested in looking at the color and not really wanting to talk about why I'm there if I ordered from someone else, I just kinda played like I knew little and let him spill. First he told me the car was listed at $5000 over MSRP and I would be lucky to find one anywhere for less than 10. He said some people have said other dealers (mentioned Knipplemeir, the one I ordered from) have been selling at MSRP but it is simply not true. I asked when he thought they would start going for less than MSRP and he said never. He claimed GM was limiting production and you will not see them all over like Mustangs. I asked if they are only planning a couple years and he said it is likely. He then proceeded to tell me of all the exotic cars he has driven and the SS is hands down the baddest car he has ever driven. Now, I know this is an opinion, but come on. He said the Camaro would keep up with the Vette, no problem and also said it was a tad lighter than the Vette. Really? Not by much, but it's lighter.

I cannot stand salespeople like this. GM is having a hard enough time as it is. If you are in the central OK area, please say no to Bob Howard. You will be better off at Knipplemeir or Marc Heitz.
I had the limited availability line thrown at me, and that the plants were going to shutdown for a long time as well making the car even more viable and liable to go up in markup from their initial $10,000 markup..lol..
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:36 PM   #9
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Don't forget to lump in Smicklas in the Bob Howard group as they are one and the same now! Gotta love it when a dealer is ashamed to put their name on the sign.
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:50 PM   #10
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gotta love it...garbage like this makes us all look bad:(
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:50 PM   #11
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this is the whole reason i got out the business. i got so sick of hearing other sales people tell people garbage that was not true. I sold fords (dont kill me i needed a job since I was let go from my previous one) i constantly heard a few other sales people telling people all kinds of crap about the mustangs that was so off based it was not even close to the truth. when you would try to help them, they didnt care, they just wanted to sell something. I know not all of us are that way and some actually are car guys/gals and know there stuff and keep it straight. sorry had to rant a bit. Do you remember the guys name at howard. I have a good friend that works there and I am just curious.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:01 PM   #12
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Mine told me the ipod/zune issue was a saftey implement. LOL. I didnt say shit to him. He felt pretty stupid when I was there a few days later getting the pdim updated and I told him why I was there.

Mine also told me the head unit could hold 8,000 songs and the l99 didnt have AFM.

Man, they should at least have some classes when a new car comes out. HOW ABOUT SOME ****ING PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE SO YOU DONT LOOK LIKE COMPLETE MORONS GM! These dumbass ****s are your diplomats to the general public. When I went to a mitsubishi dealer, the guy knew his shit about the evos.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:11 PM   #13
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yeah we had a gal that knew nothing about the new mustangs. its not that hard. she even told a customer that the mustang was 10k cheaper than an ss camaro and it had only 20 hp less than the ss. I about shot her.
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