02-27-2013, 09:36 PM | #15 |
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02-27-2013, 10:02 PM | #16 |
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In my opinion, the addition of a CAI is simply a single part of a total package that needs to be added.
The amount of air you can pass through an engine is what determines the amount of power that an engine can produce. Now thats a very simplistic statement but lets keep it simple here. If you want to get more power, you need more air, so you free up the intake (CAI) and you free up the exhaust with LT headers, HF cats and custom cat back exhaust. If you really want to boost the power you do both these things and add either a freeer breathing cam or a forced air induction system. If you want to get crazy, you do both to cram as much air through the engine as possible, of course mixed with the proper amount of fuel. Simply put, the CAI is one feature that needs to be used in conjunction with many other items to get the best gains from your engine. Putting a CAI on a stock car with no other changes would likely not make much difference at all, especially on a very small 2.0 L engine. There have been so many reputable shops here on C5 that have done test after test proving what the CAI actually do that its kind of a waste of time to debate it anymore. Been proven by quality third party testers.
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02-27-2013, 10:25 PM | #17 |
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02-28-2013, 03:11 AM | #19 |
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Those guys are just gay (true story). Dumbass too.
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02-28-2013, 03:23 AM | #20 |
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Yep.
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02-28-2013, 04:54 AM | #21 |
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Having spent 15 years selling cold air kits for every imaginable car, I have yet to have anyone complain about them. I have personally seen track times and dyno pulls on everything from a Dodge Dynasty to a Duramax z71 that confirm more power.
I added a CAI brand intake to my 2SS the other day and so far it doesn't feel any stronger to me, but it's much smoother taking off now with almost no jerk like to used to be if I was lazy off the clutch, but I can confirm my gas mileage has gone up 2mpg, so it's definitely doing something. |
02-28-2013, 07:36 AM | #22 |
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02-28-2013, 08:42 AM | #23 |
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Easiest way to pick up a good bit of power. I'll be glad to do a before/after if anyone wants a dyno session!
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02-28-2013, 09:12 AM | #24 | |
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2. Also anyone who knows anything about testing knows that controlled and non controlled variables play a huge result in your findings, meaning I can test the same thing 2 different ways and get 2 different sets of results. 3. I am pretty sure that I would put a little more faith in the testing and proven results from hundreds of car builders, drag racers, engine builders, speed shops, and thousands of happy customers over 2 guys who get paid to test things to capture an audience for ratings. 4. I would put a little more stock into testing like this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002 Have a little faith in the guys who do Cold Air Intakes for a living, and test things every day, not 2 guys working for a TV show. That being said, rest assured your CAI is giving you more power, and well worth your investment. |
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02-28-2013, 09:26 AM | #25 |
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There's a lot of good ass grabbing goin' on there!
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02-28-2013, 10:11 AM | #26 |
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Anybody do long term testing on intakes ?
I have heard some negative things without tuning with intakes. long term. |
02-28-2013, 10:20 AM | #27 |
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I have never heard of that before, and we work with a lot of people who have been around this stuff a long time. I am not sure how increased filtration and less restriced airflow could have any negative effect, short or long term. The MAF is adjusting your fuel trims according to what it is taking in, and if you are not getting a CEL then the trims are within the parameters of what the computer will allow without getting a new tune, so I don't see how anything could have negative impact?
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As CAI said, all they are doing is maximizing the airflow through the intake. The better ones will increase flow by smoothing out the airflow and getting a slightly colder charge. The MAF read area should be the same size as OEM. I'm not completely sold on the idea that 3-5 degrees colder air makes a difference but I guess it would depend on where you are in the PCM temp table. We will all agree that the closer you are to ambient, the better. The stock box does a pretty good job at keeping the temps down. Seeing that a CAI that doesn't throw a CEL is within the range of adjustablitly for the PCM, there shouldn't be a problem. We aren't fooling the PCM with unmetered air here. All the air is being counted and fueled for. Theres's just physically more of it.
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