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03-31-2013, 01:20 PM | #408 |
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He's made his point we've made ours. There's no convincing to be done here either way.
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03-31-2013, 01:29 PM | #410 | |
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There was no original intent for there to be different models of Z28 versus Z slash 28. Those definitions were made up later. http://camaros.us/camaro-z28-history-first-gen/ “My proposal went on that since our projected engine lineup for the 1967 Camaro had no V-8 smaller than the 327, and since we were above the 5000cc (305-cid) SCCA displacement limit for Class A sedans, we ought to take a high-performance version of the old 283 and wrap an option package around it to make it competitive within SCCA. " Good luck, you should have no problem getting one. |
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It stems from the common misnomer of "power-to-weight" when, in fact, being signified as "lb/hp" it rightly should be commonly expressed as "weight-to-power".
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03-31-2013, 03:05 PM | #412 | |
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Chevrolet is in fact staying true to the heritage of making the new Z/28 for racing as the rules for production classes require you to run within very defined restrictions. You can't just wildly start modifying a production car for the track to make it competitive because then it's no longer a production car; it's a custom race car. Engines, drivetrains, wheel sizes, brakes, etc. are restricted to what's produced for the class so having these things come from the factory is a big deal so it can be run in a race. I don't need luck; I already pretty much have a Z/28 with the mods I've done to my 2010 1SS, thus I don't plan on buying a 2014 Z/28. The 6th gen might be a different story. Instead of being "rubbed the wrong way" because Chevrolet didn't make the exact perfect car you wanted, why don't you do what everybody else does? Start with a car level you can afford, then mod it to where you would like it to be. I already have more horsepower than the new Z has so it's fairly easy to mod the LS3 to get the power you want. That and buy some Z/28 badges, slap it on a new 2014 1LE and presto; you're happy. Here, check out my project thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45165 You'll find all kinds of useful ideas in there to make your own version of what Chevy "should have done". I think Chevy did it right with this new model; it's going to be a landmark car. If you don't like it, make your own version. All the elements are available to mod a 2014 SS or 1LE so you'll have the new style.
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Reading about the justification for the 2014 changes didn't help either. I read that one change was made "because you wanted it", my initial thought is "No, I liked that as it was." And the next change "because you wanted it", No, I liked that too. Have there been threads in the last 2 years complaining about the mail slot or wanting a hood extractor? The tail lights and rear spoiler, who had a problem with those? These are just rhetorical questions, it really doesn't matter. Changes will always be made, it doesn't matter if you like it or not. The Camaro 'Z' is dead to me, it means absolutely nothing. The performance package heritage has become a novelty track toy & a joke. I'm sure there is a small segment of folks that will be happy about it, I'm just not one of them. If I choose to spend that much on a car next year, I'd go with the C7 Stingray anyway. That team did an impressive job. Alrighty, that's only a small part of my feelings towards the announcement, just a few bullet points but it's enough. I really have no desire to discuss it or even think about the stepchild version anymore. I do appreciate your rational discussion. There are enough people on these forums that only come here to agree with each other and pat each other on the back, they don't have any real desire to discuss anything. Keep the shiny side up. |
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04-01-2013, 10:24 AM | #415 |
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Wow is right! Self-centered much? Dismissive much? Having an opinion is one thing, being completely offensive is another. I'm sure there are a number of individuals that are glad your not wanting to discuss this (or anything) further.
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04-01-2013, 11:41 AM | #416 | |
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You can browse through plenty of threads and see folks getting bashed for their opinions. I'm not calling anyone out. I'm talking about a car and you are the one making comments about me. "...people patting each other on the back.." that happens all the time around here, I wasn't referring specifically to this thread, just in general. You can express your opinion without getting personal, that's a choice. |
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04-01-2013, 11:49 AM | #417 |
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They absolutely did the right thing......most of these replies seem to me that people want to buy a LOGO, not a Z28. And they're pissed that they can't afford to pay the entry.
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04-01-2013, 01:20 PM | #418 |
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I somewhat agree. I bet most of the people are bitching bc this car is gonna cost some serious coin, alot more than many initially thought.
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04-01-2013, 02:27 PM | #419 |
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Nope. I can't believe GM went as extreme on the 'track oriented' design as they did, but I applaud them for it.
Anyone who want 'daily amenities' in a Z/28 clearly doesn't understand the heritage of this car. ...and
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But, every once in a while, folks show up, think we're a brand new Club, don't respect the Charter, barge right in and step up to the podium to tell us how we should/shouldn't act and/or react. We take umbridge, sometimes, to that sorta "guidance". Silly us, again. Please forgive us, for we did not know... BTW, welcome. |
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