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NUCAR · 09-05-2009, 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyD;887684]Anyone find out what part they are having supply issues with?[/QUOTE

Scotty intimated brakes

HeavyD · 09-06-2009, 11:38 PM

Brakes would make sense. I don't think it would be engines because LS3 and L99 are different, trans are different too. Anything else exclusive to the SS's?

Tsudy · 09-07-2009, 03:26 AM

What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/

OUR72GTO · 09-07-2009, 12:23 PM

There was never a FIFO plan.

NotAnInsider · 09-07-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Agreed. Why WOULDN'T you do it this way?

Put simply: Logistics for one, profit for two. GM is in business to make money. They want to sell cars in the most convenient way possible in order make the most money. If your first 10 orders are to Houston, TX, Glen Mills, PA, Juno, AK, Calgary, AB, St. John's, NL, Benicia, CA, Silver Bow, MT, Montreal, QC, Drew, FL and Saginaw, MI then you need to hire 10 different railcars and trucks to bring these vehicles from the plant in Oshawa, ON to the dealers, scattered all over North America. It just makes no sense. Sure its fair to customers, but its not smart business.

I'm sure GM would be all over "first come, first served" if we all went to the plant ourselves and picked the cars up

NotAnInsider · 09-07-2009, 01:13 PM

In addition, Allocation was something that was designed by GM in conjunction with federal regulators (years ago) as a means to fairly treat dealers.

ShnOmac · 09-07-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsudy

What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/

I think you need to talk to your dealer and find out whats going on!

fdjizm · 09-07-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet

So here's the deal. SS production is now only 40% of the total. What that means is not only does the dealer need to have allocation, they need to have the ability to place the SS. For instance, a dealer may be able to order 2 Camaro's in a week, but they need to have the SS constraint to place an SS order. Now that GM has cut back SS production, the 1100 hold times may increase for alot of those waiting. The production time will still be approx 6 weeks once the order is placed, it's getting it placed. Good luck. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Becky Doyle
Rodgers Chevrolet
Woodhaven, Mi
734 479-7117
chevyfleet@aol.com

Easily the most confusing thing i have ever read.

ShnOmac · 09-07-2009, 01:25 PM

I wouldnt worry abuout it to much... Its only supposed to last for a few weeks anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Let me clarify something.....

The workers for this 'name brand' must by law be given so much time off......

SS will be a bit lower for a while -- but it'll kick back up in a few weeks.....

Brian2SS/RS · 09-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsudy

What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/

I feel your pain...

HeavyD · 09-07-2009, 10:41 PM

We all just need to be patient! My girlfriend bought a new Mazda 3 GT a few years ago and we had to wait longer because the ship that brought them over seas capcized and wrecked all the cars! It was only about 6 weeks. I know its not the same, but I think when companies are on a hot product they will try their best to get it out!

Tsudy · 09-08-2009, 09:40 PM

Capsized ship, sure... but that's not the situation with the Camaro. Allocation is a terrible process for any pre-sold order. There's literally no sales pitch or a dealership trying to move merchandise off their lot... nada. Two companies I know off the top of my head that I can order directly with are KIA and Scion - they'll drop ship them to a dealership of your choosing.

I'd be less against allocation system if there weren't still people (myself included, of course

that ordered in June and haven't had their orders move at all. I'm half inclined to simply cancel my order just so I don't have to think about it anymore and just go buy some random car off the lot.

The whole ordeal is leaving a really terrible taste in my mouth.

The initial push is over with - it's just people having to arbitrarily wait due to the allocation system. If orders didn't count against a dealership's allocation; how is it then unfair to dealerships? At that point, I'm ordering with a dealership because I choose to do business with them. If that were the case, then the playing field is even.

HeavyD · 09-09-2009, 08:34 AM

This summer season is pretty much over with anyway. I am just going to be patient. I am going to order in January, hopefully orders are low and maybe some kind of incentive. Whatever the case, I think it will be a lot easier to order and get the car then. I am with you, I think right now would be very frustrating to try and get/order this car.

09-07-2009, 03:26 AM	#17
Tsudy Drives: 2010 2LT/RS ABM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 208	What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/ __________________ ABM, 2LT, RS+Polished, Automatic, Sunroof, Black Interior, White Rally Stripes 0000: 06/06/09 (order placed with dealer) Country Chevrolet 1100: 06/08/09 (preliminary order accepted) #NKMWTD 2000: 09/09/09 (order accepted by GM) 2500: 09/09/09 (order preferenced) 3000: 09/14/09 (order accepted by production control) TPW 09/28/09 3300: 09/20/09 (order scheduled for production) 3400: 09/23/09 (order broadcast) 3800: 10/01/09 (order produced) 4000: 10/01/09 (available to ship) 4200: 10/02/09 (shipped) 5000: 10/15/09 (delivered to dealership) 6000: 10/15/09 (delivered to customer)

09-07-2009, 12:23 PM	#18
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	There was never a FIFO plan. __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

09-07-2009, 10:41 PM	#25
HeavyD Drives: 1SSRS RY L99 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,329	We all just need to be patient! My girlfriend bought a new Mazda 3 GT a few years ago and we had to wait longer because the ship that brought them over seas capcized and wrecked all the cars! It was only about 6 weeks. I know its not the same, but I think when companies are on a hot product they will try their best to get it out! Attached Images

09-08-2009, 09:40 PM	#26
Tsudy Drives: 2010 2LT/RS ABM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 208	Capsized ship, sure... but that's not the situation with the Camaro. Allocation is a terrible process for any pre-sold order. There's literally no sales pitch or a dealership trying to move merchandise off their lot... nada. Two companies I know off the top of my head that I can order directly with are KIA and Scion - they'll drop ship them to a dealership of your choosing. I'd be less against allocation system if there weren't still people (myself included, of course that ordered in June and haven't had their orders move at all. I'm half inclined to simply cancel my order just so I don't have to think about it anymore and just go buy some random car off the lot. The whole ordeal is leaving a really terrible taste in my mouth. The initial push is over with - it's just people having to arbitrarily wait due to the allocation system. If orders didn't count against a dealership's allocation; how is it then unfair to dealerships? At that point, I'm ordering with a dealership because I choose to do business with them. If that were the case, then the playing field is even. __________________ ABM, 2LT, RS+Polished, Automatic, Sunroof, Black Interior, White Rally Stripes 0000: 06/06/09 (order placed with dealer) Country Chevrolet 1100: 06/08/09 (preliminary order accepted) #NKMWTD 2000: 09/09/09 (order accepted by GM) 2500: 09/09/09 (order preferenced) 3000: 09/14/09 (order accepted by production control) TPW 09/28/09 3300: 09/20/09 (order scheduled for production) 3400: 09/23/09 (order broadcast) 3800: 10/01/09 (order produced) 4000: 10/01/09 (available to ship) 4200: 10/02/09 (shipped) 5000: 10/15/09 (delivered to dealership) 6000: 10/15/09 (delivered to customer)

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09-05-2009, 11:26 AM	#15
NUCAR Drives: 68 big block Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tossed off see ya Posts: 400	[QUOTE=HeavyD;887684]Anyone find out what part they are having supply issues with?[/QUOTE Scotty intimated brakes

09-06-2009, 11:38 PM	#16
HeavyD Drives: 1SSRS RY L99 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,329	Brakes would make sense. I don't think it would be engines because LS3 and L99 are different, trans are different too. Anything else exclusive to the SS's?

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NotAnInsider Drives: just sold it. Feet! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 391	In addition, Allocation was something that was designed by GM in conjunction with federal regulators (years ago) as a means to fairly treat dealers.

09-09-2009, 08:34 AM	#27
HeavyD Drives: 1SSRS RY L99 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,329	This summer season is pretty much over with anyway. I am just going to be patient. I am going to order in January, hopefully orders are low and maybe some kind of incentive. Whatever the case, I think it will be a lot easier to order and get the car then. I am with you, I think right now would be very frustrating to try and get/order this car.