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Old 07-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #2126
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good to hear this.......I thought I was the only knucklehead that wanted to keep my switch blades!
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Old 07-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #2127
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:07 PM   #2128
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umm death key, yes proper name...
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:26 PM   #2129
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:40 PM   #2130
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:23 PM   #2131
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Hey, I've seen Final Destination, Death will be coming for you now....
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:18 PM   #2132
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I think John Boehner is including "Camaro switchbladegate" in his law suit.
So he'll be unsuccessfully trolling GM too?


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Old 07-24-2014, 11:52 PM   #2133
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Terrified today when I took my slightly dusty Camaro to the car wash. Might be paranoid but I swear they left 3 car lengths between my Camaro and the BMW in front of me. Other autos were only separated by one car length. Are the people at the car wash now afraid to drive my car because it still has the killer FOB? Should I tip more at the car wash because my Camaro is so dangerous to drive (Hazard pay)?
Don't let them wash your camaro! I made the mistake of taking her to a wash ONCE because my pressure washer broke and I didn't feel like fixing it on my day off... Curb rash and they denied it.

Plus, if they actually did get in an accident they might blame you for your fault key!
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:57 AM   #2134
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I did 2,500 miles over the 4th of July weekend with the death key and survived.
how dare you try and steal all his thunder!!!!!

i know how you did it though, i bet you harnessed the power of grey skull.

oooooo or maybe you have the thunder cats in your trunk!!!! yup that must be it.
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:21 PM   #2135
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My two cents:

First off, if the breaking the key thing is the actual solution (I wasn't able to go through the entire thread looking for pictures so I'm not sure if there are others) then that's just stupid, lazy, and disappointing.

Here's where I think the problem lies though: the key is 90 degrees from how a typical car key goes in. On your average car key, the flat plane of the key and flat plane of the handle/grip/whatever are parallel. With a switchblade design, the key essentially has to be rotated by 90 degrees to fit. Now regardless of design, the flat plane of the key is inserted at the same angle regardless of vehicle (looking at the ones in my driveway), and this angle is essentially parallel to the ground. This means that the key on the Camaro is pointed with the wide part facing the driver. Again on your average vehicle, this would be facing up. When it is the turned 90 degrees to start the car, the flat part is down and gives a big surface to hit, while a typical key is straight up and down.

So by my understanding, it seems like they could have fixed this by just turning the ignition itself. I don't know if this is possible but it seems like it could happen.

Anyways, that just what I've realized this morning. Not sure if it's been discussed or not.
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:53 PM   #2136
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My two cents:

First off, if the breaking the key thing is the actual solution (I wasn't able to go through the entire thread looking for pictures so I'm not sure if there are others) then that's just stupid, lazy, and disappointing.

Here's where I think the problem lies though: the key is 90 degrees from how a typical car key goes in. On your average car key, the flat plane of the key and flat plane of the handle/grip/whatever are parallel. With a switchblade design, the key essentially has to be rotated by 90 degrees to fit. Now regardless of design, the flat plane of the key is inserted at the same angle regardless of vehicle (looking at the ones in my driveway), and this angle is essentially parallel to the ground. This means that the key on the Camaro is pointed with the wide part facing the driver. Again on your average vehicle, this would be facing up. When it is the turned 90 degrees to start the car, the flat part is down and gives a big surface to hit, while a typical key is straight up and down.

So by my understanding, it seems like they could have fixed this by just turning the ignition itself. I don't know if this is possible but it seems like it could happen.

Anyways, that just what I've realized this morning. Not sure if it's been discussed or not.
Good point, that would be a good idea. But as usual it comes down to cost, they probably tried different solutions and found the current one the cheapest way to go.
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Old 07-26-2014, 04:39 PM   #2137
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....they probably tried different solutions and found the current one the cheapest way to go.
I kind of doubt they did that. Given what the "fix" is, its more likely some engineer or designer at GM was taking a pee at a urinal and asked the guy cleaning the bathroom what his thoughts on the subject were. Then they went with his idea. Because it was simple and required no technical know how to come up with or execute.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:53 AM   #2138
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Good point, that would be a good idea. But as usual it comes down to cost, they probably tried different solutions and found the current one the cheapest way to go.
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I kind of doubt they did that. Given what the "fix" is, its more likely some engineer or designer at GM was taking a pee at a urinal and asked the guy cleaning the bathroom what his thoughts on the subject were. Then they went with his idea. Because it was simple and required no technical know how to come up with or execute.
I think the other two posters are correct. They would have to redesign the steering column parts for the new position and that would mean money and down time for production. The separate key solution IS the most cost effective method.
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Old 07-27-2014, 01:29 PM   #2139
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Here's where I think the problem lies though: the key is 90 degrees from how a typical car key goes in. On your average car key, the flat plane of the key and flat plane of the handle/grip/whatever are parallel. With a switchblade design, the key essentially has to be rotated by 90 degrees to fit. Now regardless of design, the flat plane of the key is inserted at the same angle regardless of vehicle (looking at the ones in my driveway), and this angle is essentially parallel to the ground. This means that the key on the Camaro is pointed with the wide part facing the driver. Again on your average vehicle, this would be facing up. When it is the turned 90 degrees to start the car, the flat part is down and gives a big surface to hit, while a typical key is straight up and down.

So by my understanding, it seems like they could have fixed this by just turning the ignition itself. I don't know if this is possible but it seems like it could happen.
The day I got my car, I mentioned the stupidly bad angle of the key to the salesman. I've compared our "fob-o'-death" vs my dad's "safe" switchblade and the keys are identical (except his has the Buick badge instead of the Chevy).

The ONLY difference is the angle the key goes in at, when they first announced it I made the same comment, just rotate the lock cylinder 45* and no more problems but apparently, they decided to go even cheaper :(
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