2011 Camaro Z28 v6 turbo vs superchared v8

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

how many polls are we going to have on the Z's powertrain? I mean seriously. hell why does it have to have FI? because that's the only way to make power? well we'll see what it is when they decide to talk about it finally. but I'm not voting on this poll. It doesn't cover an NA appication. and it could be NA.

ur scurred too...


LOL

[rudack]

By 2016 all cars produced need to meet the new government fuel mileage requirements. My guess is we will see a V6 turbo being the new Z28 by then. Who knows I would love to rock a v8 z28 but it being 2010 and all with 6 years to go, GM needs to make some changes.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

scardy cat....

you afraid of a little boost???

being scared of a little boost or thinking we don't need it to get the performance we need. . .I want to see the DI engine. I want to know specs on it and then I can tell you if the FI is even worth it in my eyes. give me 500+ DI where I can upgrade it to FI later on.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by rudack

By 2016 all cars produced need to meet the new government fuel mileage requirements. My guess is we will see a V6 turbo being the new Z28 by then. Who knows I would love to rock a v8 z28 but it being 2010 and all with 6 years to go, GM needs to make some changes.

what's the cafe go up to 35 mpg? they are set to meet it.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

scardy cat....

Ohhhhh no he didnt......

[matt55]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Just curious about what you think will make this car lighter? Adding a turbo, intercooler, piping and a beefed up suspension is going to add quite a bit of weight...... There is roughly only a 70 pound difference between a LS and a 1SS
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/

Thanks for pointing that out
Lightest Camaro V6 is 3728lbs The SS is 3849lbs
so at most 121lbs less + turbo's , pipes and IC ...

So the only advantage is High MPG , whooo
Thats should seel the deal LSA and have us a GT500 fighter !

Now IF the V6 could be 200-300 lbs LESS than a SS and have alot of HP head-room we might have something .

[rudack]

35 mpg.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Just curious about what you think will make this car lighter? Adding a turbo, intercooler, piping and a beefed up suspension is going to add quite a bit of weight...... There is roughly only a 70 pound difference between a LS and a 1SS
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/

And how much of that do the 4-pot (times four...) Brembos cost? How much more do the rest of the SS chassis improvements cost? It goes on and on...

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

scardy cat....

you afraid of a little boost???

Doubtful

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

how many polls are we going to have on the Z's powertrain? I mean seriously. hell why does it have to have FI? because that's the only way to make power? well we'll see what it is when they decide to talk about it finally. but I'm not voting on this poll. It doesn't cover an NA appication. and it could be NA.

Even though I had to stand up with my LSA brothers

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

ur scurred too...


LOL

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

being scared of a little boost or thinking we don't need it to get the performance we need. . .I want to see the DI engine. I want to know specs on it and then I can tell you if the FI is even worth it in my eyes. give me 500+ DI where I can upgrade it to FI later on.

Grr... Consider starting with a 500 horse' D.I. 6.2. Then, consider adding 6-8 psi of boost through your TVS 2300, Whipple/KB, or Procharger/Vortech and think where RWHP will be... 575 - 600 RWHP with little worry or durability?...

Originally Posted by matt55

Thanks for pointing that out
Lightest Camaro V6 is 3728lbs The SS is 3849lbs
so at most 121lbs less + turbo's , pipes and IC ...

So the only advantage is High MPG , whooo
Thats should seel the deal LSA and have us a GT500 fighter !

Now IF the V6 could be 200-300 lbs LESS than a SS and have alot of HP head-room we might have something .

Um - I'm with stupid (j/k - about the stupid-thing). Exactly. Right now, for what we know, this is what I'm thinking. Show me something else, and I'll reconsider. Still, I'm sure we're still a few years away; a lot can happen by then

[jcamaro]

The 35mpg requirement for 2016 is a fleet average. So Chevy can have many cars over, and some under. That being said by 2016 the gas guzzler tax will probably be appled to vehicles with 30 or less mpg.

Oh, and I voted V6 turbo.

[TJ91]

Z28 should never have anything less then 8 cylinders in it. And my opinion is not a biased one, i have a v6

[ctk1]

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Just curious about what you think will make this car lighter? Adding a turbo, intercooler, piping and a beefed up suspension is going to add quite a bit of weight...... There is roughly only a 70 pound difference between a LS and a 1SS
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/

They could start by losing the 20" wheels. Carbon Fiber or composite hood, trunklind, maybe doors. Have a smaller stereo setup. Lose the foglights. There are alot of places where they could save a little weight here and there and it would really add up. It dosen't even have to be that much lighter. Just develop a trackpack for the car to make it handle better.
And why are you comparing it to the SS? The Z28 was a roadcourse screamer, the SS was a dragstrip car, and the ZL1 was just a total beast.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by ctk1

They could start by losing the 20" wheels. Carbon Fiber or composite hood, trunklind, maybe doors. Have a smaller stereo setup. Lose the foglights. There are alot of places where they could save a little weight here and there and it would really add up. It dosen't even have to be that much lighter. Just develop a trackpack for the car to make it handle better.
And why are you comparing it to the SS? The Z28 was a roadcourse screamer, the SS was a dragstrip car, and the ZL1 was just a total beast.

And how much is this going to cost?... The clearcoat the ZR1 uses on it's exposed CF lanels is something like $60K a gallon, or something crazy like that. Who would buy this stripper if it cost at least the same as a 2SS? More crash testing costs $$$. IMO, I can't see this happening. At the same time, who's to say if they make Z28, in whatever combination, and it cost $46K, how many of these would they sell? That's a lot for a Camaro.

I think we're chasing our tails...

[Blizzard]

When it comes to making a choice between a supercharged V8 and a TTV6 I will pick the TT, but I understand the want for a V8 in a Z28, I would love it too, just not a big monster. A smaller, fuel efficient, autocross tuned V8 would be best in my mind, it would satisfy those who want a V8 but is still lighter and more suited for road racing, something large displacement engines are not built for.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by ctk1

And why are you comparing it to the SS? The Z28 was a roadcourse screamer, the SS was a dragstrip car, and the ZL1 was just a total beast.

Originally Posted by ctk1

I feel that the twin turbo V6 with the weight savings and handling package of Jay Leno's car would be the perfect Z28

Because you said "weight savings" If you were not comparing it to the SS what are you comparing it to? If you are comparing it to a stock V6 then I highly doubt there is any savings...... I would be willing to bet the Leno V6 actually weighs more then a stock LS.