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SC2150 · 07-23-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

I saw time slips. Same day. Back to back runs. Stock intake. Car consistently ran xxx mph and then slipped the wedge in and picked up consistent mph. I'm not saying how much because you won't believe it. Wait till he starts his thread. He's a member here. I don't like keeping secrets but I'm sure he would like to be the one letting the cat out the bag, since he did all the work. It's well worth the wait. You'll be surprised. Trust me.

Went and looked and it was on different days....not back to back. We need to see same outing before and afters....3 runs before, and 3 runs after.

I can run 1-3 tenths different between track days. Do it on the same outing!!!!

El mero maro · 07-23-2012, 08:10 PM

does varaam makes it for the 102mm fast intake

Jason@JacFab · 07-23-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Went and looked and it was on different days....not back to back. We need to see same outing before and afters....3 runs before, and 3 runs after.

I can run 1-3 tenths different between track days. Do it on the same outing!!!!

Which brings up the big question I asked in the Drag Racing section... The runs from this Power Wedge at the track are DA corrected, and compared... Is there any validity to comparing DA corrected times on different days?

Camarowguy · 07-23-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Went and looked and it was on different days....not back to back. We need to see same outing before and afters....3 runs before, and 3 runs after.

I can run 1-3 tenths different between track days. Do it on the same outing!!!!

Omg! I just typed a big ole explanation and my browser crashed. Damnit. Anyway. I misunderstood him on the phone. Might have has something to do with my three sons being rowdy in the car while I was talking to him. I thought he said he did the runs on the same day. Evidently not. It would almost be impossible to do it that way if vararam states you have to do a relearn. He even told me that as soon as he put the wedge in and tried to punch it, it bogged. So back to back runs are a no go anyway. Is the correction factor not good enough?

BplumCrazy-SS · 07-23-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

Which brings up the big question I asked in the Drag Racing section... The runs from this Power Wedge at the track are DA corrected, and compared... Is there any validity to comparing DA corrected times on different days?

I used this website to get the corrected times
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php

Coyotekiller · 07-23-2012, 10:46 PM

At least they finally got them shipping...

BplumCrazy-SS · 07-23-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Went and looked and it was on different days....not back to back. We need to see same outing before and afters....3 runs before, and 3 runs after.

I can run 1-3 tenths different between track days. Do it on the same outing!!!!

That's why I showed all of the runs to show everybody the consistency I was running...... what was your MPH difference

SC2150 · 07-24-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BplumCrazy-SS

I used this website to get the corrected times
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php

Thats a good calculator, but there are other variables so we need to see same day, same track, etc. but your input is good! Thanks!!

Camarowguy · 07-24-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Thats a good calculator, but there are other variables so we need to see same day, same track, etc. but your input is good! Thanks!!

Of notable mention is the day the wedge was run has worse weather/da conditions. It still ran 2.05 mph higher. I think it trapped a higher mph than he ever has. To me, that speaks volumes.

apeko · 07-24-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Thats a good calculator, but there are other variables so we need to see same day, same track, etc. but your input is good! Thanks!!

Yup our cars are going to fly with this piece of plastic. Even if you get the full 10 hp out of this thing the likely hood of seeing anything measurable amount at the track is close to 0.
Don't get me wrong i order one for myself but i don't expect to see any huge gains in any way. Maybe 0.001s at the track.

Cammie 2011 · 07-24-2012, 05:39 PM

Got the wedge today and installed it. Going to drive it around this evening to let it learn a bit. Took 5 min to install.

BplumCrazy-SS · 07-24-2012, 05:49 PM

Did it kind of stall for you too when u got on it

Camarowguy · 07-24-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cammie 2011

Got the wedge today and installed it. Going to drive it around this evening to let it learn a bit. Took 5 min to install.

Wait. What? Your gonna let it relearn? Well according to some Internet know-it-alls, you should have to. Hmmmm. That's just weird. Surely these guys low what they are talking about. Lmao

SC2150 · 07-24-2012, 06:54 PM

Da calculators are a good tool, but without the same car running on the same track for a minimum of 3-5 runs into a ET predictor weather station such as this:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Electronic...r-Station.html

to have any accurate comparison...and that includes trap speed.

So we cant use his comparison even though it is great he did this.

Dyno on the same day and or track on the same day & same conditions.

And this is not just an opinion, if you dont know our background, we have a lifetime of professional drag racing here...not track test & tune, but ESPN, NHRA & IHRA Championship drag racing with thousands and thousands of runs and ET predicting.

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SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Da calculators are a good tool, but without the same car running on the same track for a minimum of 3-5 runs into a ET predictor weather station such as this: http://www.racingjunk.com/Electronic...r-Station.html to have any accurate comparison...and that includes trap speed. So we cant use his comparison even though it is great he did this. Dyno on the same day and or track on the same day & same conditions. And this is not just an opinion, if you dont know our background, we have a lifetime of professional drag racing here...not track test & tune, but ESPN, NHRA & IHRA Championship drag racing with thousands and thousands of runs and ET predicting.