11-02-2010, 05:14 PM | #1 |
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Z28 vs SSX
I know I'm not the only one thinking about it......
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11-02-2010, 05:18 PM | #2 |
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yeah, not the only one thinking about it, but you have no final specs to compare the two to one another : P
at first glance, the SSX will be the better overall package and be ready to destroy lap times at the tracks, and the Z28 will have a little more power. too early to judge either of them.
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11-02-2010, 05:30 PM | #3 | |
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Hmmmmm true but we do have an Idea where each is going though.... SSX lighter weight 524 HP N/A Z28 550+ HP FI as far as I know for now I guess |
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11-02-2010, 06:04 PM | #4 |
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You mean supercharged SSX vs Z28
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11-02-2010, 07:19 PM | #5 |
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The SSX is not supercharged. Looks like they're gunning directly for the Boss 302.......... .............. but I wonder if it would edge out a heavier, possibly less track-oriented Z28. Intra-Camaro warfare. Last edited by MG; 11-03-2010 at 05:35 AM. |
11-02-2010, 07:23 PM | #6 |
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I would buy the SSX and add supercharger or twin turbo
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11-02-2010, 07:28 PM | #7 |
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I don't think the SSX will be street legal.
But sure would be fun to drive one, much less have one |
11-02-2010, 07:32 PM | #8 |
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I too have been thinking about the comparison, but would really like to see if GM would make an "X" package for the upcoming Z/28.
Anyway, from what we know (educated guessing) it seems that the two cars would be very evenly matched, but I have to question how they came up with the 524 HP number. There is no way that only a cam, tune, and exhaust would provide a 100 HP bump over a stock SS. Maybe 50 HP (for a grand total of 476 HP), but not 100 HP unless there are a lot more go fast parts going on the SSX that haven't been disclosed yet. Edit: I think I remember reading something earlier today about revised aluminum heads too, so a Heads/Cam/Intake manifold (high flow) motor could very easily make 100 HP over stock...we will have to wait and see for sure. If the 524 is accurate I would expect the SSX to have a slightly better power-to-weight ratio than the Z/28 (again, guessing), so I bet it would post faster lap times on most, if not all tracks, than a stock Z/28. I bet the cost could be higher for the SSX package (+ an SS, of course) than a Z/28, though. One last final thought that I have already posted in another thread today. If the SSX is indeed only a track car and not setup to be street-legal, then anybody who would have the money for a track-only car of this caliber would be remiss to choose an SSX over a ZO6X. The main game changer for the SSX would be if the cost is only like $10K-$15K over an SS, then it would be much more affordable for a wider range of people. |
11-02-2010, 07:43 PM | #9 |
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11-02-2010, 07:55 PM | #10 | |
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I'm going to throw some educated guesses out there for a cost on this beast of a package: (these numbers are the cost above and beyond the stock part) 1) Heads/Cam/Dry Sump = $5000.00 2) ZR1 twin disc = $500.00 3) Air Intake/Exhaust (with headers) = $1500.00 or (without headers) = $500.00 4) 6-piston front calipers/rotors = $1000.00 5) 4-piston rear calipers/rotors = $500.00 6) Pfadt Suspension = $2500.00 7) Track Wheels/Tires = $2500.00 (for the record, I think 20" track tires is a stupid idea, it is very expensive and hard to find 20" track tires...) 8) Aero improvements/Carbon Fiber Body Panels and other cosmetic stuff = $5000.00 Grand Total = $18,500.00 (for the entire package installed - which, based on my modding experience with my CTS-V, is a very good deal) In a nutshell, if a 2SS can be had for $35000.00 + $18500.00 (SSX package) you would be sitting at $53500.00, which I am guessing would be about $3500.00 more than a Z/28, but should outperform a stock Z/28. Edit: I edited some of my numbers because on some of them I was taking the cost of the part over a stock part and on others I was just including the cost of the parts total. Now the list is set up to show the cost of the upgraded components over the cost of the stock parts + some additional cost for installation built into each itemized cost. I am guessing that this package would be dealer-installed and not factory-installed, so we will definitely pay a bit for cost of installation. Last edited by tweeter81; 11-03-2010 at 10:51 AM. |
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11-02-2010, 08:14 PM | #11 |
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FI is not for hard core track cars like the SSX. You just lose WAY too much power after several laps.
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11-02-2010, 08:27 PM | #12 |
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Agreed. N/A is definitely the way to go for a track car! Also, less parts to break and less stuff to go wrong.
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11-03-2010, 12:31 AM | #13 |
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On a track? Probably SSX. Everywhere else? Z28 by default, odds are the SSX wouldn't be street legal ... if it even gets built.
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11-03-2010, 02:43 AM | #14 |
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Is there a weight rumor going around?
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