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SSexy Camaro · 02-24-2014, 10:06 PM

I love the sound of the night fury cam and the rough idle by jannetty. I got quotes by both and seemed kind of high, two questions here:
having a cam install costs 5000$??? seems like a lot just for a cam shaft install.

Also, what kind of rollers does these cams have? flat tappet? what is the life of these aggressive cams on a L99?? Has anyone experienced problems at all. Would I need to have heads installed as well because of clearance issues?

seems smarter to just go with forced induction when it comes to HP numbers. BUT I WANT THAT SOUND... dammit. any help greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.

CHMSC · 02-24-2014, 10:09 PM

I was quoted around $2500 to $3000 for the full kit. As long as you have the supporting mods it should be around ^^^^^^^^

litle88 · 02-24-2014, 10:11 PM

You have two options, I don't know about the other one. I'm not impressed....

1) Mike @ newera in your state who can set you up with an Awesome VVT cam and tune that has all you'll need. From the right cam and parts to GREAT TUNING.

2) lethal can ship you their cam and parts for the Ls3 conversion AND mike @new era can tune it right.

rberns · 02-24-2014, 10:12 PM

Cams aren't cheap especially if your an L99 going to LS3 conversion. I believe it is a bit cheaper if you stay VVT and if thats the case get with Rhino79 from GPI. Our cars use roller lifters and not flat tappets. Right now I am piecing my LS3 conversion and cam parts together and once I have it installed I will probably have spent about $4500. Like you said, a cammed engine sounds so much better.

SSexy Camaro · 02-24-2014, 10:16 PM

I might do that, I wonder how long it takes to install a cam and ls3 conversion kit
I already have headers and a CAI, making 368rwhp, can I expect to hit 400???

CHMSC · 02-24-2014, 10:16 PM

I didn't realize you were an auto but ya it's gonna cost more if you are mobbin an L99

I would also agree with little88

litle88 · 02-24-2014, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSexy Camaro

I might do that, I wonder how long it takes to install a cam and ls3 conversion kit
I already have headers and a CAI, making 368rwhp, can I expect to hit 400???

With a cam. Absolutely.

Rhino79 · 02-24-2014, 10:26 PM

Staying vvt will be cheaper, and its hard to argue with the success of vvt grinds in auto cars.

SSexy Camaro · 02-24-2014, 10:26 PM

I've gone with tune time in NJ and they're great, but I've recently moved and now they are like an 8 hour drive, so I'm leaning towards Jannetty, although they quoted me at a price that was astronomical for just a rough idle cam install

Rhino79 · 02-24-2014, 10:27 PM

Our smallest vvt cam will be a 420 minimum hp cam, probably closer to 430 on most dynos. They go up from there, but the larger ones require the right tq converter. If you don't want a different converter, stick with the SS1.

usnatclee · 02-24-2014, 10:39 PM

Mine all together was a little under $3000. Mods and hp are in my signature.

TBone · 02-24-2014, 11:46 PM

Do your homework but pay attention to what some of the sharpest guys on this forum have said right in your own thread here. Don't let their knowledge go to waste.

T.

SolomonAKOO · 02-25-2014, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBone

Do your homework but pay attention to what some of the sharpest guys on this forum have said right in your own thread here. Don't let their knowledge go to waste.

T.

please do your homework on the shop you choose! You dong want to go with the cheapest shop and have to go back to have it fixed then possibly end up with a bigger problem.
If your able to I'd suggest just doing the install yourself then having someone tune it for you.

02-24-2014, 10:06 PM	#1
SSexy Camaro Patiently Waiting Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Posts: 57 View My Garage	Aggressive Cam Shaft=Damage? I love the sound of the night fury cam and the rough idle by jannetty. I got quotes by both and seemed kind of high, two questions here: having a cam install costs 5000$??? seems like a lot just for a cam shaft install. Also, what kind of rollers does these cams have? flat tappet? what is the life of these aggressive cams on a L99?? Has anyone experienced problems at all. Would I need to have heads installed as well because of clearance issues? seems smarter to just go with forced induction when it comes to HP numbers. BUT I WANT THAT SOUND... dammit. any help greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS A6 L99 American Racing Headers with X pipe straight back, K&N Aircharger CAI, TuneTime dyno'd @368 on Mustang Dyno Last edited by SSexy Camaro; 02-24-2014 at 10:07 PM. Reason: typo

02-24-2014, 10:09 PM	#2
CHMSC ROAD COURSE JUNKIE Drives: 2012 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,868 View My Garage	I was quoted around $2500 to $3000 for the full kit. As long as you have the supporting mods it should be around ^^^^^^^^ __________________

02-24-2014, 10:11 PM	#3
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	You have two options, I don't know about the other one. I'm not impressed.... 1) Mike @ newera in your state who can set you up with an Awesome VVT cam and tune that has all you'll need. From the right cam and parts to GREAT TUNING. 2) lethal can ship you their cam and parts for the Ls3 conversion AND mike @new era can tune it right. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

02-24-2014, 10:12 PM	#4
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Cams aren't cheap especially if your an L99 going to LS3 conversion. I believe it is a bit cheaper if you stay VVT and if thats the case get with Rhino79 from GPI. Our cars use roller lifters and not flat tappets. Right now I am piecing my LS3 conversion and cam parts together and once I have it installed I will probably have spent about $4500. Like you said, a cammed engine sounds so much better. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

02-24-2014, 10:16 PM	#5
SSexy Camaro Patiently Waiting Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Posts: 57 View My Garage	I might do that, I wonder how long it takes to install a cam and ls3 conversion kit I already have headers and a CAI, making 368rwhp, can I expect to hit 400??? __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS A6 L99 American Racing Headers with X pipe straight back, K&N Aircharger CAI, TuneTime dyno'd @368 on Mustang Dyno

02-24-2014, 10:26 PM	#8
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Staying vvt will be cheaper, and its hard to argue with the success of vvt grinds in auto cars.

02-24-2014, 10:27 PM	#10
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Our smallest vvt cam will be a 420 minimum hp cam, probably closer to 430 on most dynos. They go up from there, but the larger ones require the right tq converter. If you don't want a different converter, stick with the SS1.

02-24-2014, 10:39 PM	#11
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	Mine all together was a little under $3000. Mods and hp are in my signature. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

02-24-2014, 11:46 PM	#12
TBone Negative Camber Junkie Drives: 2010 1SS LS3/6MN ABM 1 of 23 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ChiTown, IL Posts: 1,824	Do your homework but pay attention to what some of the sharpest guys on this forum have said right in your own thread here. Don't let their knowledge go to waste. T. __________________ "Horsepower is something that looks great in a Magazine article, but suspension is what actually gets you around the track fast.." Jack Olsen The drag strip is like sniffing glue, it's cheap, it's a decent buzz, it doesn't last long and they are all the same. Road racing is like China White Heroin, the buzz is stronger, the high lasts for hours, it's extremely addictive and they are all different. I can't wait for my next Track fix. DA HAWKS OWN DA CUP!!!!!