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2010_5thgen · 02-23-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan 572

the extra money you could buy a ls9 what a bunch of idiots thst is like comparing a ferrari and a corvette why dont they compare the gt500 to the z06 the cost about the same the zo6 woul shit all over the gt500

because there has been testing and the base model z51 corvette has already proven that it can take the gt500. it was in a car and driver magazine when the gt500 came out. vette took it in every aspect of racing.

porcupinekiller · 02-23-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Streak

Good point. So you would say that the GT500 isn't in the same market as the SS then right! It should be SS vs. GT not GT500 right?

Historically speaking over time the Shelby will ultimately hold it's value better. But that being said comparing the SS (top performing Camaro as of now) to the GT500 (top performing Mustang that's 100% Ford built) is dollar for dollar not a fair comparison. But until GM comes out with a Z28 or some higher hp factory option, technically speaking it is still a valid comparison. Top Mustang vs top Camaro. If you put the Camaro SS vs the Mustang GT that's a different story. The Camaro if it lives up to it's promises will be a vastly superior car and an outstanding value. But out on the streets and strips of the world is where we'll ultimately find out the truth. I for one love the new muscle car wars. It's a very exciting time for us car nuts!!!

Supermans · 02-23-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

Where does this $20K number come from? Help me understand.

2010 GT500 MSRP: $46,325
2010 1SS Camaro (I'll use the cheaper of the two SS models): $30,245

I like to be as accurate as possible so it is fairest to compare the cars with the same trims..

You have to compare the GT500 to a fully loaded 2SS/RS to get the same equivalent which does bring the price closer.

msrp $46,325 GT500

msrp $35,100 Camaro 2SS/RS with polished rims

The GT500 comes standard with all those extra's...

That's closer to an $11,000 difference between the two give and take. I know IRS is in with the SS and not in the GT500 however since it is not an option to include or exclude, I can't put a price on that hence the give and take. And yes, price gouging on the GT500 runs rampant..

Nexus6 · 02-23-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

FYI as it has been stated before the GT500 is not outsourced. It's built in Michigan by Ford and sold through Ford dealers. The GT500KR and Super Snakes were reworked GT500's with performance mods done by Shelby American in Nevada.

Dana makes the spaceframe for the Z06. Does that mean that it's lame?? I think not.

alot of parts come from third party vendors so that analogy doesnt really work
.im sure hes talking about,the car is built,then sent to another place for all that work to be done.

RT21 · 02-23-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

Where does this $20K number come from? Help me understand.

2010 GT500 MSRP: $46,325
2010 1SS Camaro (I'll use the cheaper of the two SS models): $30,245

Your MSRP is wrong according to this dealer: http://heraldnet.motors.adicio.com/a...ort=price+desc

Nexus6 · 02-23-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RT21

Your MSRP is wrong according to this dealer: http://heraldnet.motors.adicio.com/a...ort=price+desc

O SNAP!!

porcupinekiller · 02-23-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RT21

Your MSRP is wrong according to this dealer: http://heraldnet.motors.adicio.com/a...ort=price+desc

Ouch!!!! I prefer this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318

RT21 · 02-23-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus6

O SNAP!!

That's right! I said it! O_O

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Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

Ouch!!!! I prefer this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318

I love that one too...but the clown troll (check his posts) are all either upping Mustang or downing Camaro. So the higher number wins.

Xlr8torZ28 · 02-23-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

Isn't the Corvette ZR1 supercharged???

might as well be fair on all sides instead of a one sided argument.

Camaro V6 > Mustang V6
Camaro SS > Mustang GT
GT500 > ???... Oh yeah, Camaro doesnt have a higher option V8 yet
nice try though. That would be like comparing a supercharged SS to a stock GT. LAME!

RT21 · 02-23-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xlr8torZ28

might as well be fair on all sides instead of a one sided argument.

Camaro V6 > Mustang V6
Camaro SS > Mustang GT
GT500 > ???... Oh yeah, Camaro doesnt have a higher option V8 yet
nice try though. That would be like comparing a supercharged SS to a stock GT. LAME!

Camaro V6 <= Mustang V8

Base Number of Cylinders: 8 Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters
Base Engine Type: V8 Horsepower: 315 hp
Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm Torque: 325 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4250 rpm Maximum Towing Capacity: 1000 lbs.
Drive Type: RWD Turning Circle: 37.7 ft.

Blownhotrodder · 02-23-2009, 07:29 PM

Right now the mustang owns the camaro. Fight it as much as you want to but thats the facts. Years ago it was diffrent. Who really cares though, they are both nice cars. Hopefully the new camaro will hurry up and hit the streets so we can quit this childish bs and have something else to talk about.

garagelogic · 02-23-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus6

alot of parts come from third party vendors so that analogy doesnt really work
.im sure hes talking about,the car is built,then sent to another place for all that work to be done.

What the hell are you talking about? The GT500 (not KR, not SuperSnake) is built entirely at the same assembly plant that builds the base model and GT Mustang's. What 3rd party vendors are you referencing?

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Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

Right now the mustang owns the camaro. Fight it as much as you want to but thats the facts. Years ago it was diffrent. Who really cares though, they are both nice cars. Hopefully the new camaro will hurry up and hit the streets so we can quit this childish bs and have something else to talk about.

Amen to that.

drivingincamaro · 02-23-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RT21

Camaro V6 <= Mustang V8

Base Number of Cylinders: 8 Base Engine Size: 4.6 liters
Base Engine Type: V8 Horsepower: 315 hp
Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm Torque: 325 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4250 rpm Maximum Towing Capacity: 1000 lbs.
Drive Type: RWD Turning Circle: 37.7 ft.

comparing Oranges to apples??

06GTO · 02-23-2009, 07:36 PM

Great stuff. what a joke...

02-23-2009, 07:36 PM	#126
06GTO Drives: 06 GTO, 06 Z06, 06 X5 4.4 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SC Posts: 48	Great stuff. what a joke... __________________ '06 GTO M6 '06 Z06

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Blownhotrodder Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clarkesville , GEORGIA Posts: 1,859	Right now the mustang owns the camaro. Fight it as much as you want to but thats the facts. Years ago it was diffrent. Who really cares though, they are both nice cars. Hopefully the new camaro will hurry up and hit the streets so we can quit this childish bs and have something else to talk about.