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Old 11-13-2010, 06:13 AM   #1
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Camaro 6 vs BMW 6

I was reading up on some of BMW's latest offerings, and I noticed that their 3.0 liter, DI, turbocharged 6 cylinder only puts out 300 HP as compared to the Camaro's 3.8 liter, DI non-turbo 6 cylinder's 312 HP. Yeah, 0.8 of a liter is a lot, but still, it's NA compared to the turbo on the Bimmer. Gotta give some street cred to Chevy. I think the nod goes to the Camaro V6!
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:48 AM   #2
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BMW would win. and its a 3.6L engine.
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:48 AM   #3
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U should reread cars specs then after that make a dumb topics.
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:17 AM   #4
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A 60 degree V6 and an inline 6 are completely different animals. Plus the 3 series is much lighter (by around 300 pounds). Of course, it also starts at $43K. And a 3 series beamer is also like a yuppie uniform. Seems like every 30 something who goes to work with a tie on drives a 3-series or a G37 sedan.
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:28 AM   #5
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not to mention the BMW's 3.0 twin turbo inline 6 are EXTREMELY mod friendly. My cousin's chipped 135i beat me in the 1/4 mile.....forget about keeping up with it in the V6 camaro.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:11 AM   #6
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I was reading up on some of BMW's latest offerings, and I noticed that their 3.0 liter, DI, turbocharged 6 cylinder only puts out 300 HP as compared to the Camaro's 3.8 liter, DI non-turbo 6 cylinder's 312 HP.
According to C&D, the 3L Beemer is making more than it's advertised "300" hp.

Look at the test results. The BMW is only 300 lbs lighter than the v6 Camaro, and supposedly has about the same hp.

Hmmm. I would have to agree with C&D ...

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2011 BMW 335i Coupe - Quick Test

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...upe-quick_test

PRICE AS TESTED:
$53,525 (base price: $43,525)

ENGINE TYPE:

turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement:
182 cu in, 2979 cc
Power (SAE net):
300 bhp @ 5800 rpm
Torque (SAE net):
300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm

TRANSMISSION:

6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Curb weight: 3506 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 21.3 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 32.7 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:38 AM   #7
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According to C&D, the 3L Beemer is making more than it's advertised "300" hp.

Look at the test results. The BMW is only 300 lbs lighter than the v6 Camaro, and supposedly has about the same hp.

Hmmm. I would have to agree with C&D ...

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2011 BMW 335i Coupe - Quick Test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...upe-quick_test

PRICE AS TESTED:
$53,525 (base price: $43,525)

ENGINE TYPE:
turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement: 182 cu in, 2979 cc
Power (SAE net): 300 bhp @ 5800 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm

TRANSMISSION:
6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Curb weight: 3506 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 21.3 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 32.7 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.88 g
If you look at the V6 fast list you will see there are several running the 1/4 at close to that time some basic bolt ons. Strip 200 lbs of the V6 Camaro and it is a driver's race.
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Old 11-13-2010, 01:07 PM   #8
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Camaro's 3.8 motor was good in its day, junk in the current market. I believe it only put out around 200hp at the crank.

Camaro now has a 3.6, direct injected motor, making 312 crank hp while still putting down 29 mpg highway.



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Old 11-13-2010, 07:24 PM   #9
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My bmw m3 with a 3.2 liter naturaly aspirated put out 333 hp, and they made a CSL version that put out 360 hp.I would say Chevy is behind in that category. BMW is just turning to turbos for fuel efficeincy. A 135i and a 335i would take a v6 Camaro. A 535i and a 635i with the same engine the Camaro would win.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:23 AM   #10
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not to mention the BMW's 3.0 twin turbo inline 6 are EXTREMELY mod friendly. My cousin's chipped 135i beat me in the 1/4 mile.....forget about keeping up with it in the V6 camaro.
Its underrated to the Nth degree from the factory.

I have a few friends who have done all the bolt-on mods to theirs and running Meth. Car puts close to 420whp. Pulls on Gallardo's easily
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:52 PM   #11
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the beemer engine also makes more torque.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:44 AM   #12
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Camaro's 3.8 motor was good in its day, junk in the current market. I believe it only put out around 200hp at the crank.

Camaro now has a 3.6, direct injected motor, making 312 crank hp while still putting down 29 mpg highway.



Just a little update
crank hp is good,but what you really want to know is what it's puttin' down at the rear wheels!..(brake h.p!)..the "general" is NOT talkin'!..seen nothin' in print either!..somebody knows!..maybe just the engineers!..312 at the "flywheel" is definitely a ''strong" 6 though!...."just sayin!"
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:26 AM   #13
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I was reading up on some of BMW's latest offerings, and I noticed that their 3.0 liter, DI, turbocharged 6 cylinder only puts out 300 HP as compared to the Camaro's 3.8 liter, DI non-turbo 6 cylinder's 312 HP. Yeah, 0.8 of a liter is a lot, but still, it's NA compared to the turbo on the Bimmer. Gotta give some street cred to Chevy. I think the nod goes to the Camaro V6!
so the only thing you are looking at is the liter and HP .... is that a joke?
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:09 PM   #14
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The 3L with twins is underrated, but the new twin scroll turbo isnt as strong.
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