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It's not a Camaro design. It's RWD however. And it just shows the level of commitment to the new platform. I would not be surprised to see more cars converted to RWD (like the Impala, a possible El Camino, who knows. But I agree... PLZ don't overdo the shapes of the "noses" and make them overdramatic. Grrrrr...
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"Earlier this morning Chevrolet took the wraps off of two new concept vehicles, the Code130R and Tru140S. Chevrolet states that the two coupes are the fruits of much research into designs that appeal to younger buyers, or more specifically, about 80 million buyers in today's market. Despite the expressive designs, GM states that both concepts were designed to be feasible for production. GM took an unconventional approach to designing the two coupes. Instead of spending time in customer clinics, GM went to college campuses. Designers showed college students various vehicle silhouettes and asked them to select their favorites. After a sizable amount of feedback, GM found that young customers have strong appeal toward two specific shapes of four-passenger coupes. Those two final silhouettes ended up being the shapes of both concepts. The Tru140S is a front-wheel drive rakish coupe that was designed to be built off of GM's global compact car architecture (Delta), the same platform that currently underpins the Chevrolet Cruze and Volt. The Tru140S was designed to look like an Italian exotic, a design theme that GM's research shows has strong appeal to Millennial buyers. GMI spoke with Nick David, the lead designer of the Tru140S, who stated that the design is very feasible for production. Specifically, he stated that the rear bumper and fender flares are more expressive for concept duty, but the main theme of the design is something GM can produce. Chevy's second concept coupe is allegedly based on GM's upcoming Alpha rear-wheel drive platform, the same platform holding up the new Cadillac ATS. As the case with the Tru140S, David told GMI that it too is feasible for production, which is not a big surprise. Whereas the Tru140S just looks more like a conceptual design than the Code130R does. GMI's immediate reaction to the car was that it looks very similar--both in size and shape--to the BMW 1-Series. So will they be built? It sounds like GM has not made a decision regarding production of either car, however they did state that the cars are going to be going on tour this year to auto shows and other venues to "gauge reaction." The vibe we got suggests that both cars could see production, it just depends what the people want. That begs the question...which concept do you prefer?" So neither one should be a Camaro and they both may or may not ever be built, it depends on the reactions at car shows and the media. Clyde |
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Impala will not be going RWD any time soon.
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I said this on another thread, but the TRU140S Looks and awful lot like the 2007 Supra. Looks like GM talked to those who were in HighSchool just 1-4 years ago and may be driving bikes at college at the very moment the clinics were completed.
4 years ago the Supra was "killer" looking and a car HS kids would have admired. Now, for those who still have decent jobs and who may or may not be living at home when they go to spend, I guess that's what they are looking for. It certainly doesn't look like something the average Camaro buyer would be attracted to. I'm just wondering if GM is leading with that design or just catching up? |
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Agreed. As I said before, the base I4 is UNDER 3,400. Since the difference in weight of a 2012 Camaro V6 manual and SS manual is about 70 lbs (V6 manual 3,780 lb, SS manual 3,849), and the announced weight of the ATS with the DOHC V6 is 3,402 lb (same engine as the current Camaro LT/LS V6), if you add 100 lbs to the ATS for for a V8 package you arrive at 3,502 lb. (and the ATS may well get a V8 package announced later which will narrow down the figure even better), subtract that from the current SS weight and you arrive at 347 lb. less than the current Camaro SS. Even if they manage to find another 47 lb of additional weight content for a Z/28 version, you're still at 300 lb less than the current SS and that would fall into the 300-400 lb range I mentioned. I don't know what more to say, the numbers are out there for all to see.
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Plus the ATS will have more sound deadening and more equipment (which both equal more weight) than the Camaro.
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I don't see GM keeping the LS3 in a 3,400 pound Camaro. That's getting a little too close to the power and speed of a Vette Grand Sport. Unless they are planning on upping the power or dropping weight in the C7 Vettes to keep it ahead of the Camaro.
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Also, if they were gonna put a design feeler out there for the public to see, now would be the time to do it. For a true unbiased reaction they wouldn't call it a Camaro just to see if people like the way it looks and I think they've got their answer.
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