Shorty Headers!! Which is best????

[NickJRE]

Catted Long-tubes is the best option. The Shorty Headers really haven't produced any gains, besides looks and some weight savings.

[wrbear]

I think getting shorty is a personal choice. I installed them on my car. I want to show the car verses Go and keeping a warranty on the drive train. Long tubes as far as I know void your drive train (engine) warranty. If you’re not worried about the warranty then long tubes it is.

[NickJRE]

Long tubes don't automatically void the warranty...Dealer discretion, some could void the warranty over shorties.

If your doing it just for the show, shorties are a great option especially ceramic coated.

[Stay Marine]

Originally Posted by ddunerider

You have the long tubes?

Sorry, they are shorties...assumed that's what we were talking about

[Stay Marine]

Originally Posted by NickJRE

Catted Long-tubes is the best option. The Shorty Headers really haven't produced any gains, besides looks and some weight savings.

Yep, you will never get the same ummphh from shorties...plain and simple. Nor will you get the same gains the vendors claim (18HP FROM shorties...).

Knowing that, and know I care more about passing emissions than 15-20 HP, I went with shorties (and $260 for the SS option). So getting 9hp and 15 tq was reasonable.

I am sure most tuner's will disagree, but there is still a noticable punch after the install....but it isn't huge; you can just notice it. I already had HF cats, and X-Back exhaust, so the tone of the exhaust was just slightly deeper from where I sit. Others said they could notice a change.

At the end of the day, HF cats were the best return on investment for me...netting just over 20hp to the wheels.

I chose shorties to save emissions, ease of install, cost, and convenience; not for raw HP gains..cant touch LT headers...even crappy ones

[2010SSRSM6]

Originally Posted by ddunerider

Damn!! Long tubes.......And the cats?

Let me twist your arm a little more, BBK includes high flow cats with their LT's.

It took less than two hours to do the LT install, dyno pulls (6, 3 before/3 after) and install the CAI.

[wrbear]

Originally Posted by NickJRE

Long tubes don't automatically void the warranty...Dealer discretion, some could void the warranty over shorties.

If your doing it just for the show, shorties are a great option especially ceramic coated.

Well then I've learned something new. I was under the impression from all of the posts I have read that long tubes meant getting a tune. A tune voids the warranty. I wish I would have know before I got the shorties that that was not the case.

[Padre]

Originally Posted by NickJRE

Catted Long-tubes is the best option. The Shorty Headers really haven't produced any gains, besides looks and some weight savings.

You're not really comparing apples to apples. How would Shorties and high-flow catted midpipes compare to catted LTs?

That's what I'm doing for a variety of reasons, but I do expect some reasonable horsepower gains.

Padre

[FSUCamaro]

Originally Posted by NickJRE

Long tubes don't automatically void the warranty...Dealer discretion, some could void the warranty over shorties.

If your doing it just for the show, shorties are a great option especially ceramic coated.

So you can get LT w/o a tune, but the emissions would still most likely void the drivetrain part of the warranty? that sound about right?

[1FAST SS]

Originally Posted by Stay Marine

Yep, you will never get the same ummphh from shorties...plain and simple. Nor will you get the same gains the vendors claim (18HP FROM shorties...).

Knowing that, and know I care more about passing emissions than 15-20 HP, I went with shorties (and $260 for the SS option). So getting 9hp and 15 tq was reasonable.

I am sure most tuner's will disagree, but there is still a noticable punch after the install....but it isn't huge; you can just notice it. I already had HF cats, and X-Back exhaust, so the tone of the exhaust was just slightly deeper from where I sit. Others said they could notice a change.

At the end of the day, HF cats were the best return on investment for me...netting just over 20hp to the wheels.

I chose shorties to save emissions, ease of install, cost, and convenience; not for raw HP gains..cant touch LT headers...even crappy ones

I agree. I went with Shorty headers with Hi Flow cats also. The cats are the real HP gainer. I went with shorty headers to keep my warranty. In the future I will go with LT to get the HP, but for now the shortys work for me.

[coptzr]

I had the Doug Thorley shorties and the GMPP touring mufflers for awhile.No real gains using the ole "Butt-Dyno" and not much more exhaust note. I then installed SLP LT's w/cat's and man what a difference. Great tone and good power gain and never even had to tune.No SEL either. Just my 2 cents....

[10SIL2SSLS3]

I got a barely used set of JBA 1812SJS Silver Ceramic Coated Shorties for sale. Less than 400 miles.All hardware and new gaskets included! $420 shipped to lower 48. PM if interested.

[Jason7]

Originally Posted by ddunerider

I bet but what about smog.... ....And did you have to tune?

You have six years to smog in California so most just keep their stock systems.....

[Jason7]

In all honesty the shorties are not going to come anywhere near a LT header. In the ass dyno or on a true dyno, doesn't matter.... I know a lot of us are talking about emissions issues but if you buy a complete header back system, catted or uncatted and save all your stock stuff your golden. If you were to even get a state ref ticket (pain in the ass, i know) all you would need is the stock system put back on and the ticket signed off after a visual inspection. I don't see why you would even think about going with shorties, its not a 1500 silverado..... Let's not even discuss the torque differences...

Jason