[mikeyg36]

Can any SS owners comment on the wheel hop of the 6th gen? The 5th gen was brutal so I'm hoping they fixed it.

[stmbtwilli]

One of the suspension engineers I talked to at the reveal said he had done over 500 launches without ever getting wheel hop on the sixth gen. I do hope he wasn't blowing smoke.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Check out this video of David Leone discussing the complete elimination of the wheel hop in the ATS-V. It comes in at the 9:05 mark:



I suspect that the Camaro employs this technique as well. And I suspect that it is working, considering the 0-60 times for both cars.

[mikeyg36]

I hope the smaller half shaft isn't weak

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by stmbtwilli

One of the suspension engineers I talked to at the reveal said he had done over 500 launches without ever getting wheel hop on the sixth gen. I do hope he wasn't blowing smoke.

Good news right there!

[Number 3]

Different stiffness half shafts is not new. GM used that in the original CTS-V years ago to calm that down after the initial launch as I recall. That car had power hop worse than anything I can remember. I believe it's also how control torque steer on FWD cars.

[drivingagain]

I can say the tires break lose before wheel hops occurs. It is a smooth transition too. No wheel hop for me and
i tend to break the tires lose daily with traction control on. I am still in break in period too. This car is a beast!

[pdoherty972]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Check out this video of David Leone discussing the complete elimination of the wheel hop in the ATS-V. It comes in at the 9:05 mark:



I suspect that the Camaro employs this technique as well. And I suspect that it is working, considering the 0-60 times for both cars.

This guy references Moto-Man a lot. Isn't this the same Moto-Man that suggests the controversial break in method so many by-by-book folks whine about?

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by pdoherty972

This guy references Moto-Man a lot. Isn't this the same Moto-Man that suggests the controversial break in method so many by-by-book folks whine about?

No different guy, but the same name. Here is a link to the break-in guy:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

And, here is a link to the MotoMan who reviews cars:



The Cadillac Engineer was referencing the latter.

[ChefBorOzzy]

The wheel hop on my Mustang is ridiculous. The whole car wants to fall apart.

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

The wheel hop on my Mustang is ridiculous. The whole car wants to fall apart.

Mine is pretty bad on the 1LE with the stock tires.

Once I put on A/S or Winters the wheel hop will go away and they'll just be leaving rubber on the road, lol.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I hope the smaller half shaft isn't weak

There's no way it's too weak, they just increase the size of the other one, and make sure the ratio of the two are non integer multiples of each other. If you divide 30/55 you get 0.54545454......

You can't get a harmonic oscillator going with that ratio. End of wheel hop. They use the same math to make sure bridges don't fall apart in the wind like this:

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?...&hsimp=yhs-004

It's the same math they use to figure out where to brace large radio antenna as well. If you brace at the top, and 1/2 or 1/4 away from the top (or any integer fraction/multiple), the antenna will vibrate in a stiff wind like a guitar string and fall apart. If you place the second brace something like 0.54545454.... from the top brace, no standing waves can occur.

If the engineers are smart enough to figure out wheel hop is caused by the twisting of the drive shafts acting like a spring to store energy, then vibrating back and forth as an harmonic oscillator, we can be safe in assuming they weren't stupid enough to not figure out to make sure the smaller one can handle the full load.

Plus, GM has used this technology on other cars, I'm sure they would have figured that out by now, even if they did.

Also, if you look at the Camaro's power to weight ratio and trap speeds, and compare that to the 0-60 times, you can see this car is hooking up on launch very well. Whatever they did, it works, and that's all I care about.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I hope the smaller half shaft isn't weak

Hey, I just noticed you are from Ellicott City, MD. We are very close! Where did you get your Z/28 from?

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

The wheel hop on my Mustang is ridiculous. The whole car wants to fall apart.

S197 right? The manual one I had would get some hop if I wasn't smooth with the launch, but a set of BMR LCA's fixed that...funny thing is my current auto one doesn't hop what so ever...