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Maurdib · 05-21-2010, 11:49 AM

CAI 10-15 HP gain
LT Headers Highflow Cat 33hp gain
Axel back 5hp gain

If I do all this I would go from 312 to 365hp high/360hp Low?

2010 SSRS · 05-21-2010, 11:51 AM

sounds correct to me

scrming · 05-21-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurdib

CAI 10-15 HP gain
LT Headers Highflow Cat 33hp gain
Axel back 5hp gain

If I do all this I would go from 312 to 365hp high/360hp Low?

not quite...

No CAI has seen those kinds of gains.... at least not those that have been actually independently tested...

The LT gains were NOT at PEAK... they were in the mid-range... the peak gain was quite a bit less...

esperman · 05-21-2010, 12:03 PM

I think your looking at roughly 330 net hp with the above.

Maurdib · 05-21-2010, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrming

not quite...

No CAI has seen those kinds of gains.... at least not those that have been actually independently tested...

The LT gains were NOT at PEAK... they were in the mid-range... the peak gain was quite a bit less...

BBK has their CAI and LT headers dynoed on their Website

ron10 · 05-21-2010, 12:14 PM

you would have to get a dyno to know for sure.

John VS · 05-21-2010, 12:35 PM

Yeah, those might be the numbers the manufacturers are using but not happening in the real world. I'd say 30HP for the lts with high-flows and the axle back. Another 5 for intake.

Figure 347 at the crank, that's about 285 to the wheels, which is in line with actual dynos of similar setups. Maybe even a little high.

Maurdib · 05-21-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VS

Yeah, those might be the numbers the manufacturers are using but not happening in the real world. I'd say 30HP for the lts with high-flows and the axle back. Another 5 for intake.

Figure 347 at the crank, that's about 285 to the wheels, which is in line with actual dynos of similar setups. Maybe even a little high.

hmm the question is, is that worth $1500

littleman54321 · 05-21-2010, 12:43 PM

"Worth" is a funny word. What is worth it to one man won't necessarily be to another. $1500 for maybe 30 horses is a lot of money. $1500 for the extra power, the sound, and the "proud" factor that comes with modding your car is a different story.

Always about perspective. If you got the cash, and you want to do it, go for it!

devildoc · 05-21-2010, 12:45 PM

I have put more than $1500 in my car and haven't dyno everything yet but yes it is.

Now this is what I figure:

Intake: 5-8hp
Axle back: 3-5hp
Peak hp for headers: 18-20hp

Now as Scrming has pointed out BBK got 33hp/30tq gain around 5400rpm (If remembered correctly) so if you compare the gains with everything at that same rpm then there is your max hp gain not peak hp. Am I correct in thinking that Scrming?

KMPrenger · 05-21-2010, 02:56 PM

Plus you can't just take what each claims as a gain and add it all up like a simple math equation...even if they all really did give advertised claims. When you put it all together, your outcome is likely going to be less than what the sum of each individual part's hp gain adds up to.

But I think most if not everyone here realizes that.

My guess, realistically you'd be looking at 335 to 340 at the crank.

05-21-2010, 11:49 AM	#1
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Am I thinking correctly? CAI 10-15 HP gain LT Headers Highflow Cat 33hp gain Axel back 5hp gain If I do all this I would go from 312 to 365hp high/360hp Low? __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

05-21-2010, 11:51 AM	#2
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	sounds correct to me __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

05-21-2010, 12:45 PM	#10
devildoc Drives: '12 Toyota Tacoma Dbl Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 1,275 View My Garage	I have put more than $1500 in my car and haven't dyno everything yet but yes it is. Now this is what I figure: Intake: 5-8hp Axle back: 3-5hp Peak hp for headers: 18-20hp Now as Scrming has pointed out BBK got 33hp/30tq gain around 5400rpm (If remembered correctly) so if you compare the gains with everything at that same rpm then there is your max hp gain not peak hp. Am I correct in thinking that Scrming? __________________ MRT V2\|Trifecta Tune\|Airaid\|ARH LTs\|Eibach Sways STANDING 1/4MI: 13.948@99.87 6600RPM HP/TQ Gains - 30.54HP/24.3TQ (NOT PEAK)

05-21-2010, 02:56 PM	#11
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Plus you can't just take what each claims as a gain and add it all up like a simple math equation...even if they all really did give advertised claims. When you put it all together, your outcome is likely going to be less than what the sum of each individual part's hp gain adds up to. But I think most if not everyone here realizes that. My guess, realistically you'd be looking at 335 to 340 at the crank. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

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esperman You Can Call Me Jay Drives: 2010 1LT RJT Manual w/CAI & Solo Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Louisville, KY area Posts: 1,284	I think your looking at roughly 330 net hp with the above.

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