Inside Line: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison - Page 72 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

C5RocksC5 · 06-26-2012, 11:08 AM

If only performance oriented car guys are on this thread, it would have been settled long ago.

Fenderaddict2 · 06-26-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012ZL1

GT500......Who cares anyway? Its a Ford. Last time I looked this is a CAMARO site and a ZL1 forum. Who gives a mouses behind about what the GT500 does and doesn't do.

Most of the people commenting don't even own a ZL1 or a GT500, so unless you own one or the other, no-one is interested in your opinion anyway.

Mods this is another thread to ditch to the useless Ford mega whiner thread.

Fenderaddict2 · 06-26-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Anyone who races either of these cars competitively has more money than I would know what to do with.

And less sense. I track my car for fun, if I was serious about it I wouldn't select a Mustang or Camaro.

Topher3134 · 06-26-2012, 01:26 PM

When is old randy gonna test these 2 cars out to see which ones faster? I mean he did the boss vs the zl1 test right? How bout we have that girl thats done like 50000 laps of the ring test both cars around there? Just saying. Or we could keep loving our camaros and respecting the stuff ford is doing. Nah that would be too easy! I promise you the ford can do one thing my camaro can't...thats fit in my garage! Fing camaro is too wide in the rear!

SlingShot · 06-26-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by A-little-perspective

There is a slight problem with their consistency argument.

The problem is they didn't show any proof of consistency. They published two laps times, one for the GT500 and one for the ZL1. You would think if they were going to mention how you can consistently run fast laps in the ZL1 they would at least show it.

As it reads, all they did was name a winner based on an assumption.

Don't you think you could do that after having seat time in both cars ?

evolve · 06-26-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

Don't you think you could do that after having seat time in both cars ?

Then times mean absolutely nothing.

HDRDTD · 06-26-2012, 01:46 PM

I suspect strongly, that no amount of data gathered by ANYBODY under ANY conditions ANYWHERE in the world would EVER be enough to satisfy everybody.

As we all know any data can be intrepreted in a varity of ways to support either side with no definitive result.

Just ask the politicians.

evolve · 06-26-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

I suspect strongly, that no amount of data gathered by ANYBODY under ANY conditions ANYWHERE in the world would EVER be enough to satisfy everybody.

As we all know any data can be intrepreted in a varity of ways to support either side with no definitive result.

Just ask the politicians.

I believe you may be absolutely correct.

ParisTNDude · 06-26-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

As mentioned in other threads....you can turn that around to something like this...."the fact that a GT500 could run slightly faster times on this particular track with the archaic SRA, much less sophisticated suspension, and a poor F/R weight distribution is amazing...."

And please...not knocking either car...they both have their goods and bads.

Ford has done amazing things with an SRA in recent years...especially since they now have Camaro competition. On a smooth track, I doubt there's very little advantage to an IRS, but on undulating bumpy road surfaces, look out! I don't disagree with what you said.

tnspd · 06-26-2012, 04:45 PM

Well the Mustang fans missed it. We had 5 ZL1's at Camaros for Heroes and ran them down the track. I invited the local Mustang club but not one Mustang showed up. Oh I take that back. A speed shop brought their Mustang and it won the Highest HP trophy. 780 RWHP. But it had an LS3 in it! LOL.

101fng · 06-26-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tnspd

Well the Mustang fans missed it. We had 5 ZL1's at Camaros for Heroes and ran them down the track. I invited the local Mustang club but not one Mustang showed up. Oh I take that back. A speed shop brought their Mustang and it won the Highest HP trophy. 780 RWHP. But it had an LS3 in it! LOL.

cool?

DanSS24 · 06-26-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tnspd

Well the Mustang fans missed it. We had 5 ZL1's at Camaros for Heroes and ran them down the track. I invited the local Mustang club but not one Mustang showed up. Oh I take that back. A speed shop brought their Mustang and it won the Highest HP trophy. 780 RWHP. But it had an LS3 in it! LOL.

Now that was funny...

evolve · 06-26-2012, 06:57 PM

Another test, this time C&D:

Basic Stats

500:ZL1
1/4 - 11.8@125:12.3@118
Top speed - 189:181
70-0 - 155ft:151ft
Skid - 1.0:.99

Grattan Raceway 2.2mi
Both 1:30.2

The ZL1 was declared the winner btw.

PistonsFan · 06-26-2012, 07:04 PM

They must be biased too!

06-26-2012, 04:45 PM	#1004
tnspd Drives: 18 Camaro ZL1 1LE (WILSON) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,340	Well the Mustang fans missed it. We had 5 ZL1's at Camaros for Heroes and ran them down the track. I invited the local Mustang club but not one Mustang showed up. Oh I take that back. A speed shop brought their Mustang and it won the Highest HP trophy. 780 RWHP. But it had an LS3 in it! LOL. __________________ Camaro South Hot Cars and Hospitality on FB camarosouth@hotmail.com

06-26-2012, 06:57 PM	#1007
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	Another test, this time C&D: Basic Stats 500:ZL1 1/4 - 11.8@125:12.3@118 Top speed - 189:181 70-0 - 155ft:151ft Skid - 1.0:.99 Grattan Raceway 2.2mi Both 1:30.2 The ZL1 was declared the winner btw. __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

06-26-2012, 11:08 AM	#995
C5RocksC5 Banned Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 697	If only performance oriented car guys are on this thread, it would have been settled long ago.

06-26-2012, 01:26 PM	#998
Topher3134 Drives: delete me Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: delete me Posts: 418	When is old randy gonna test these 2 cars out to see which ones faster? I mean he did the boss vs the zl1 test right? How bout we have that girl thats done like 50000 laps of the ring test both cars around there? Just saying. Or we could keep loving our camaros and respecting the stuff ford is doing. Nah that would be too easy! I promise you the ford can do one thing my camaro can't...thats fit in my garage! Fing camaro is too wide in the rear!

06-26-2012, 01:46 PM	#1001
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	I suspect strongly, that no amount of data gathered by ANYBODY under ANY conditions ANYWHERE in the world would EVER be enough to satisfy everybody. As we all know any data can be intrepreted in a varity of ways to support either side with no definitive result. Just ask the politicians.

06-26-2012, 07:04 PM	#1008
PistonsFan Drives: 08 CTS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 82	They must be biased too!