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USAFJeeper · 02-26-2009, 03:12 PM

How much horsepower and handling does ambient lighting add?

GOLDDOG · 02-26-2009, 03:15 PM

We should all happy to get this car anyway we can. With the outlook for GM getting worse everyday, there may be no Camaro next year or any GM vehicle. Look around GM Inside News, its alot worse them most people would like to believe.

camaro5 · 02-26-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by USAFJeeper

How much horsepower and handling does ambient lighting add?

Due to electrical load, that translates into alternator horsepower requirements, the ABL causes a LOSS of .002147 horsepower.

This translates into a 0-60mph time degraded by .00081 seconds, for a net result of 4.50081 seconds compared to 4.50000 for non-ABL vehicles. UN-acceptable.

BryGo · 02-26-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarcum

Hey, at least we finally know the meaning of "The eagle is taking a shower and dropped the soap."

JMAN311 · 02-26-2009, 03:24 PM

Thanks for the info....looking forward to seeing some pics/vids on Saturday.

GOLDDOG · 02-26-2009, 03:26 PM

When I was at the Chicago Auto Show, a GM rep was there and I asked him about the ABL. He stated that it was only going to be in the doors. He also said that they were having heating issues with the lighting going across the dash. Overtime, seams started to split which compromised the whole look.
Not sure if there is any validity to this, but it was interesting.

bobby35ny · 02-26-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLDDOG

When I was at the Chicago Auto Show, a GM rep was there and I asked him about the ABL. He stated that it was only going to be in the doors. He also said that they were having heating issues with the lighting going across the dash. Overtime, seams started to split which compromised the whole look.
Not sure if there is any validity to this, but it was interesting.

If thats the case, what will the South Florida SUN do to the dashboard?

=bobby

1_2Many · 02-26-2009, 03:35 PM

I don't buy the heat issue excuse. I mean, how hot does a car interior get with the windows up on a scorching day in Nevada? 140..150 degrees easy? LED's do not produce that much heat especially when used in conjunction with fiber optics where the light is simply spread from one source evenly.

If light bulbs caused dashboards to warp then we'd all have some jacked up gauge clusters to stare at all day.

Besides...we cannot forget the Dubai car. However that was working there seemed damn fine to me.

Me thinks this is more likely a cost cutting procedure.

trm0002 · 02-26-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1_2Many

I don't buy the heat issue excuse. I mean, how hot does a car interior get with the windows up on a scorching day in Nevada? 140..150 degrees easy? LED's do not produce that much heat especially when used in conjunction with fiber optics where the light is simply spread from one source evenly.

If light bulbs caused dashboards to warp then we'd all have some jacked up gauge clusters to stare at all day.

Besides...we cannot forget the Dubai car. However that was working there seemed damn fine to me.

Me thinks this is more likely a cost cutting procedure.

They could do something a lot more constructive to cut costs than $5 on a dash led...

UCF w00t · 02-26-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby35ny

If thats the case, what will the South Florida SUN do to the dashboard?

=bobby

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Originally Posted by 1_2Many

I don't buy the heat issue excuse. I mean, how hot does a car interior get with the windows up on a scorching day in Nevada? 140..150 degrees easy? LED's do not produce that much heat especially when used in conjunction with fiber optics where the light is simply spread from one source evenly.

If light bulbs caused dashboards to warp then we'd all have some jacked up gauge clusters to stare at all day.

Besides...we cannot forget the Dubai car. However that was working there seemed damn fine to me.

Me thinks this is more likely a cost cutting procedure.

If my dash get's jacked because of heat, I'll be pissed. And for that reason, I'm thinking that this is not the reason they pulled ABL. If it was heat, why would the doors be any different? Aren't they the same material? Until we get a reason otherwise, it's +1 for the bean counters.

1_2Many · 02-26-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by trm0002

They could do something a lot more constructive to cut costs than $5 on a dash led...

It's not just the LED they would be eliminating...it's the acrylic panel and associated wiring.

I have another theory too...what are the legalities regarding lights on your dash? Did GM get overzealous and forget to check whether it is even legal to have a light up dashboard????

UCF w00t · 02-26-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1_2Many

It's not just the LED they would be eliminating...it's the acrylic panel and associated wiring.

I have another theory too...what are the legalities regarding lights on your dash? Did GM get overzealous and forget to check whether it is even legal to have a light up dashboard????

They better not cut the silver acrylic. That would ruin the continuity with the doors. The black cloth looks very meh to me and does not match the leather interior at all.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Thanks Scotty!!!

I'm glad to know that I won't have to read another thread that goes something like, "OMG I WANT TO KNOW IF ABL WILL BE ONLY ON THE DOORS OR NOT!!!111one!!!one!!!!11"

Annoying as hell.

If anyone cancels their order over a string of pretty lights inside the car, then they really need to get their priorities in order.

PQ · 02-26-2009, 03:50 PM

They probably put it together and figured it for production and sat back and figured rather than make it look like the "Cash Cab" they would much rather produce a finished product that people who don't even give a damn about the Camaro will talk about in a good way. If it was going to look cheesy I wouldn't want it. Ever go to a car show and see some of the crap those guys put in their cars? I'd rather have some of a good thing than all of a bad thing.

We'll see the pics of the Saturday event.

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02-26-2009, 03:35 PM	#106
1_2Many Drives: 2008 Suzuki SX4 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 785 View My Garage	I don't buy the heat issue excuse. I mean, how hot does a car interior get with the windows up on a scorching day in Nevada? 140..150 degrees easy? LED's do not produce that much heat especially when used in conjunction with fiber optics where the light is simply spread from one source evenly. If light bulbs caused dashboards to warp then we'd all have some jacked up gauge clusters to stare at all day. Besides...we cannot forget the Dubai car. However that was working there seemed damn fine to me. Me thinks this is more likely a cost cutting procedure. __________________ We are the early orderers...we are GM's voluntary guinea pigs and their free source of feedback. How will we be thanked?

02-26-2009, 03:45 PM	#111
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02-26-2009, 03:50 PM	#112
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	They probably put it together and figured it for production and sat back and figured rather than make it look like the "Cash Cab" they would much rather produce a finished product that people who don't even give a damn about the Camaro will talk about in a good way. If it was going to look cheesy I wouldn't want it. Ever go to a car show and see some of the crap those guys put in their cars? I'd rather have some of a good thing than all of a bad thing. We'll see the pics of the Saturday event. __________________

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GOLDDOG Drives: 2010 2LT/RS & 08 JSB Corvette Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 275	When I was at the Chicago Auto Show, a GM rep was there and I asked him about the ABL. He stated that it was only going to be in the doors. He also said that they were having heating issues with the lighting going across the dash. Overtime, seams started to split which compromised the whole look. Not sure if there is any validity to this, but it was interesting.