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Fandango · 04-07-2008, 12:06 AM

MORE I WANT MORE!!!

Is it really small? I saw the concept in real life. I didn't find it that small. The production car was only going to be like 1 inch smaller.

Was it what you expected, was it more? Anyway, more detail.

You kissed, now Tell!!

Supermans · 04-07-2008, 01:19 AM

All this small talk has me a bit worried. The Bumblebee Saleen GTO which is the same size as the original concept is not small by any means. Is it smaller than a 98 Ford Mustang??? Is the front seat lower to compensate where you can't see the hood at all while driving as in the 4th gen camaro? If you are over 6 feet, how much head room from the top of your head to the roof can we expect? As for all you lucky forum members that got to be there, I envy all of you. I know all of these answers will be solved once they hit showroom's, however it would be nice to know sooner so I can make my decision between the Camaro and the new Challenger. From reading the specs of both car's, the Camaro is supposed to be wider than the Challenger... Is this true?

bouncertime · 04-07-2008, 01:32 AM

Remember, non of us has seen the Concept in person and I know that the pre-production car was smaller than I expected, but it is not tiny by any means. It is definetly bigger than a Mustang.

Supermans · 04-07-2008, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bouncertime

Remember, non of us has seen the Concept in person and I know that the pre-production car was smaller than I expected, but it is not tiny by any means. It is definetly bigger than a Mustang.

That's good to hear. I'm glad you guys had fun while you were there and did actually see the camaro. I wish they had let you take photographs of the event considering we already have photo's of the car's you saw. The most interesting comment was the one about the GT500 which means we should be seeing a 500HP Camaro or better in the works?

*TAG UR IT* · 04-07-2008, 02:14 AM

diarmadhi, thank you for that very detailed write up!!! You are to be commended, sir!

Punchy, I can't even begin to thank you enough for putting forth this effort and taking these folks out for the tour. I mean really....that was very kind of you.

I could only imagine the great memories that were made today...vette ride doing 360's and drifting?? Dang! But, getting to see 3 black prepros out there!?! Now...why do ya'll think there was one completely covered up.....

I'm guessing V6, V8, V8 SC...one for each black prepro. And...someone mentioned supercharger??? huh??? what have I been saying?!?!?!

Something that really makes me happy is that Bluetooth... I could use that all the time.

Ah....and that's what the thing was on the dash!!! A speaker! Cool deal....sounds like we are going to have some 5.1 surround sound in this bad boy.

Did you see a label w/ type of speaker?

Guys, you all are so lucky...living out there and getting to take part in something as cool as this. And, as much as I'd like to see pix, thanks for being honest and respectful to Punchy. Congratulations, guys.

And, it really is that much better in person!

*GTAHVIT* · 04-07-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno

Lucky bast*rds!

one word.. SUPERCHARGER!!

+1 !!!!!!!

*GTAHVIT* · 04-07-2008, 07:48 AM

I wasn't even there and I feel relieved. Total breath of fresh air.

Thanks Punchy and Diarmadhi

SSNIGHTMARE · 04-07-2008, 08:55 AM

OMG super charger and the gt500 as a bench mark, someone is going to have to wipe off my keyboard

*radz28* · 04-07-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno

Lucky bast*rds!

one word.. SUPERCHARGER!!

They had me at GT500 for a benchmark!

You guys are super lucky and Punchy is quite a generous person to allow the tour and peak.

Way to go!!!

Punchy · 04-07-2008, 10:16 AM

Once again I'm glad you guys enjoyed yourselves, UNFORTUNATELY I'm not going to be able to give anymore tours at this time.

I don't expect the guys that came here to not report what you've seen as I would do the same if I were in your shoes. I completely understand. There's just too much to try to keep under wraps at the grounds and I've created stress for some great employees there and it was the last thing I ever wanted to do.

So again I apologize but no more tours. :(

AZCamaroFan · 04-07-2008, 10:27 AM

wow, since i live out here in Phoenix, and my best friend lived down the street from the proving grounds, i sure would have liked to be there.

mprhead5 · 04-07-2008, 11:02 AM

nice to have assurance on the supercharger. that model will sure to be marked up 10k for a year and low production. even if they make it large production I can't see it stickering for under 38k. seems like you didn't get too many answers out of em but I bet it was kick ass just getting to see em up close. If I recall the gt500 dosn't do all that well when it comes to dyno runs and track handling. so says top gear but clarkson is bias against american cars

Mythic · 04-07-2008, 11:15 AM

Quote:

How much does it weigh? - Unspecific answer, more than a '69.
Does it weigh under 4k lbs? - Yes.

The 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Specifications
Wheelbase, inches: 108.1
Weight, lbs: 3,765

so we can expect wieght to be in the 3800-3900 range

The_Stache · 04-07-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythic

The 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Specifications
Wheelbase, inches: 108.1
Weight, lbs: 3,765

so we can expect wieght to be in the 3800-3900 range

But the base curb weight (non z28) was 3199 if i recall correctly. He didn't specify.

04-07-2008, 12:06 AM	#29
Fandango (In Z/28 Therapy) Drives: 2014 SS Camaro (Sookie) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zephyrhills, FL Posts: 466	MORE I WANT MORE!!! Is it really small? I saw the concept in real life. I didn't find it that small. The production car was only going to be like 1 inch smaller. Was it what you expected, was it more? Anyway, more detail. You kissed, now Tell!! __________________ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.”

04-07-2008, 01:32 AM	#31
bouncertime Miller High Life Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1, 2017 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,199 View My Garage	Remember, non of us has seen the Concept in person and I know that the pre-production car was smaller than I expected, but it is not tiny by any means. It is definetly bigger than a Mustang. __________________ Jimmy

04-07-2008, 07:48 AM	#35
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	I wasn't even there and I feel relieved. Total breath of fresh air. Thanks Punchy and Diarmadhi __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

04-07-2008, 11:02 AM	#40
mprhead5 Drives: 04 MAzdaspeed miata 250whp Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kunsan AFB Korea Posts: 48	nice to have assurance on the supercharger. that model will sure to be marked up 10k for a year and low production. even if they make it large production I can't see it stickering for under 38k. seems like you didn't get too many answers out of em but I bet it was kick ass just getting to see em up close. If I recall the gt500 dosn't do all that well when it comes to dyno runs and track handling. so says top gear but clarkson is bias against american cars __________________ 87 camaro v6 m5, 89 Trans-Am GTA, 96 Camaro Z28 M6. current Ride: 04 Mazdaspeed MX-5 250whp 13.3 1/4m Last edited by mprhead5; 04-07-2008 at 11:16 AM.

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Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,752 View My Garage	All this small talk has me a bit worried. The Bumblebee Saleen GTO which is the same size as the original concept is not small by any means. Is it smaller than a 98 Ford Mustang??? Is the front seat lower to compensate where you can't see the hood at all while driving as in the 4th gen camaro? If you are over 6 feet, how much head room from the top of your head to the roof can we expect? As for all you lucky forum members that got to be there, I envy all of you. I know all of these answers will be solved once they hit showroom's, however it would be nice to know sooner so I can make my decision between the Camaro and the new Challenger. From reading the specs of both car's, the Camaro is supposed to be wider than the Challenger... Is this true?

04-07-2008, 02:14 AM	#33
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	diarmadhi, thank you for that very detailed write up!!! You are to be commended, sir! Punchy, I can't even begin to thank you enough for putting forth this effort and taking these folks out for the tour. I mean really....that was *very* kind of you. I could only imagine the great memories that were made today...vette ride doing 360's and drifting?? Dang! But, getting to see 3 black prepros out there!?! Now...why do ya'll think there was one completely covered up..... I'm guessing V6, V8, V8 SC...one for each black prepro. And...someone mentioned supercharger??? huh??? what have I been saying?!?!?! Something that really makes me happy is that Bluetooth... I could use that all the time. Ah....and that's what the thing was on the dash!!! A speaker! Cool deal....sounds like we are going to have some 5.1 surround sound in this bad boy. Did you see a label w/ type of speaker? Guys, you all are so lucky...living out there and getting to take part in something as cool as this. And, as much as I'd like to see pix, thanks for being honest and respectful to Punchy. Congratulations, guys. And, it really is that much better in person!

04-07-2008, 08:55 AM	#36
SSNIGHTMARE Drives: 2002 SS Camaro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 372	OMG super charger and the gt500 as a bench mark, someone is going to have to wipe off my keyboard

04-07-2008, 10:16 AM	#38
Punchy Drives: Dub Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Here Posts: 18	Once again I'm glad you guys enjoyed yourselves, UNFORTUNATELY I'm not going to be able to give anymore tours at this time. I don't expect the guys that came here to not report what you've seen as I would do the same if I were in your shoes. I completely understand. There's just too much to try to keep under wraps at the grounds and I've created stress for some great employees there and it was the last thing I ever wanted to do. So again I apologize but no more tours. :(

04-07-2008, 10:27 AM	#39
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	wow, since i live out here in Phoenix, and my best friend lived down the street from the proving grounds, i sure would have liked to be there.