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Old 09-07-2010, 05:48 PM   #57
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What does the weight of a 3.6l kenne bell kit add to the car? Just curious?
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:55 PM   #58
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I would like to see some more details on the short block, I always thought 440 ls motors were na only setups. I might have to give your builder a call when I'm ready. I'm sure your car will run great. A 440 would spool some turbos nicely.
RC, over on a youtube video built by wormboy and his crew have a 440 lsx twin turbo setup, auto, and makes i believe 1100+rwhp...

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Old 09-07-2010, 05:57 PM   #59
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What static CR did you decide go with ?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:03 PM   #60
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What does the weight of a 3.6l kenne bell kit add to the car? Just curious?
I know the Maggie added 100lbs not sure on the Kb tho
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I know the Maggie added 100lbs not sure on the Kb tho

You have got to get that thing running soon... We need some craziness back on this site.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:00 PM   #62
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I think the KB 3.6 is about 60 lbs heavier than the maggie.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:22 PM   #63
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I think the KB 3.6 is about 60 lbs heavier than the maggie.
Wow! we need to put these cars on a diet.
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Wow! we need to put these cars on a diet.
Thats why I was wondering, cause Im stuck between this KB 3.6 and a IPS TT Kit... Oh well, I will see soon... I hope
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Nice chatting with you Stephen, hope you can finish before the LSX shootout . This will be one to watch for ! Craig
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:03 PM   #66
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Nice chatting with you Stephen, hope you can finish before the LSX shootout . This will be one to watch for ! Craig
You too Craig,
Hopefully one day soon i can make the trip up there to ya
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Wow! we need to put these cars on a diet.
This is really scary when adding in the possibility of using the iron LSX block as at least another 100lbs, heavier stronger axles, the 9in is no light weight either, the gear section alone (Strange version with carrier and gears is another 80 and then there is the case. Cage for you guys won't be an option..unfortunately figure about another 250. ugh!!! The total added weight must be somewhere at least 300-500lbs.
This is something that I think even carbon fiber won't completely compensate.

Say it can't be true that the KB weighs 160..I knew the rotors were a little different but it doesn't look that much larger...photos make it look much slimmer.
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This is really scary when adding in the possibility of using the iron LSX block as at least another 100lbs, heavier stronger axles, the 9in is no light weight either, the gear section alone (Strange version with carrier and gears is another 80 and then there is the case. Cage for you guys won't be an option..unfortunately figure about another 250. ugh!!! The total added weight must be somewhere at least 300-500lbs.
This is something that I think even carbon fiber won't completely compensate.

Say it can't be true that the KB weighs 160..I knew the rotors were a little different but it doesn't look that much larger...photos make it look much slimmer.
LSx block scary?? You forget that allows us to use much better Cylinder heads And be able to run 30+psi reliably, An extra 200+rwhp is worth the extra weight, And if your going to put a blower on top of an LSx I can't imagine anything better than a 3.6 KB "Except for the 4.2 KB" Which we will upgrade to as soon as its available!
Sice my starting point was nearly 4,000lbs I kinda gave up on weight
I just wanted as much torque as possible to make up for it, And trust me this car will have an insane amount of torque!!!
And i could eliminate 300lbs or more pretty easily, I would like to get it under the 4,000lb range when i'm done with it.
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I am just saying that all the weight that is being added from the hard core hardware is adding up quickly.
I agree on both counts that the LSX block and the KB are a great combination. I have my LSX block but I am shopping for a set of 6 bolt heads to take full advantage of its potential. I agree that the car can use all the grunt it can get in order to get moving.
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LSx block scary?? You forget that allows us to use much better Cylinder heads And be able to run 30+psi reliably, An extra 200+rwhp is worth the extra weight, And if your going to put a blower on top of an LSx I can't imagine anything better than a 3.6 KB "Except for the 4.2 KB" Which we will upgrade to as soon as its available!
Sice my starting point was nearly 4,000lbs I kinda gave up on weight
I just wanted as much torque as possible to make up for it, And trust me this car will have an insane amount of torque!!!
And i could eliminate 300lbs or more pretty easily, I would like to get it under the 4,000lb range when i'm done with it.

I feel your pain (again). I decided with the SST fighting the weight issue in a true street car is very hard while keeping full power and safety systems (LSX, A2W, 9 inch diff, Outlaw axles, cage, chute, fire suppression, fuel, blah, blah, blah...).

After everything is tuned and good to go, then start finding possible ways to cut weight. (Front subframe from Xtreme Innovations, etc.) When you start putting your car on a diet give me a shout, maybe we can compare notes...
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