12 SS vs 12 5.0

[dekan513]

u guys realize they are a few bolton 5.0 ran in the 10's . there are a few out at out local track . they dont have but like a c.a.i. a tune. exhaust and they are running 11's they run good with a driver.

[Bad70supreme]

Ya gutted bolton shop cars in the 10s! Over the last 2 years I have yet to see a bolton 5.0 run any faster then 11.90s and that was once. The avg bolton 5.0 even with drag radials were all running 12.4-12.0 range at my tracks and stock I never seen faster then a 12.8 with avg of low 13s. I am not saying they cant be faster but those times were all typical around here. Nothing a SS cant handle!

[CobraBall]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Ya gutted bolton shop cars in the 10s! Over the last 2 years I have yet to see a bolton 5.0 run any faster then 11.90s and that was once. The avg bolton 5.0 even with drag radials were all running 12.4-12.0 range at my tracks and stock I never seen faster then a 12.8 with avg of low 13s. I am not saying they cant be faster but those times were all typical around here. Nothing a SS cant handle!

I've seen them run low 12s here with just tires. You also have to take into account that a slow track is going to be slow for an SS too.

[Bad70supreme]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

You must be running into the wrong drivers then. The 5.0 will respond just as well to mods as an ss and doesn't have to push 3900 pounds around. Around here (Atco) tuned/intake/exhaust GTs are running high 11s on a sticky tire. BBK did a bolt on comparo and the mustang made more HP with the exact same mods as an SS. I included a link below.

Ok and you just said the same thing I just said. High 11s on a sticky tire at one of the fastest tracks! So how is that much better then a camaro? My car ran 12.6s with nothing but headers on it, if I put a tune, intake and tires I would have been low 12s easy... right were the mustangs run with the same parts. So whats your point, that BBK video is a joke too. There are plenty of guys that have gone low 12s high 11s with boltons on a camaro. I have not had any problems beating bolton 5.0s around here. But lets get this striaght, I am not talking about guys running 15" rims with slicks... do that to a SS and they will run scay fast without a lot of mods as well. I am talking 5.0s with stock rims and DRs with a basic boltons.

[PQ]

Tune, intake and exhaust makes it as fast as a Shelby. That makes sense.

[debro7046]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Ya he is hidding something from you.

I'm the owner of the 2012 5.0 At the time I ran 11.89@121 I only had an Airriad intake, boss manifold, cat deletes, email tune and flowmaster axleback. I have trapped 118 with just intake and tune. I'm not hiding anything. I now have pypes long tubes and a dyno tune. hopefully I will be able to trap around 123mph. My numbers may seem a little high but if you visit a mustang forum, you will see similar mustangs running those those numbers

[debro7046]

Originally Posted by Deki

I agree. He's gotta be running at least injectors+E85 to get anything close to that. Seems awfully fast for just a basic tune/manifold/exhaust car with no tires.

I do have 47 injectors but im currently only running 93 octane. I will be switching to E85 as soon as NJ starts getting blend 1 around summer time

[zadjaliz]

The Gearing and weight are helping these 5.0's alot, also the boss intake monifold lets the car shift around 7200-7800rpm
Unfortunetly the camaro does have crappy gearing and too much weight. My advice Try getting some 3.73's along with a decent cam it will get you to that trap speed and some sticky tires to lower the time.

[08-G35s/6MT]

What's up with the typing in blue? Is that what's cool nowadays?

[newmoon]

I have no problems with the times the OP posted for his Son's time. He has headers, full exhaust, boss intake, CAI, and probably an AED or Steeda tune. This combination has been proven over and over for the 5.0 as a solid 11-sec combination.

[LeanPocket]

you can hit 11's with a nightfury cam, i guarantee it.

Not apples to apples, but i saw a thread where a guy goes 10.8's on a cam only vvt setup.

[Bad70supreme]

Thats not what I am saying, I understand a bolton stang has the possibility to run faster then a bolton camaro. The stangs engine designe responds better to a tune and intake manifold swap and ease of using a 15" wheel. Using that boss intake is like a cam swap on a LS engine, my point is a basic tune, exhaust 5.0 is not running any better then the camaros. Once you get into that boss intake, running e85 and such then a bolton camaro has no chance I understand that, a cam will even things out for the camaro. A few cam only camaros have been 10s... Both cars are great, but both cars need to be modded different! The camaro is not going to run what a stang runs with the same parts, its a different car and requires a different setup.

[CobraBall]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

Thats not what I am saying, I understand a bolton stang has the possibility to run faster then a bolton camaro. The stangs engine designe responds better to a tune and intake manifold swap and ease of using a 15" wheel. Using that boss intake is like a cam swap on a LS engine, my point is a basic tune, exhaust 5.0 is not running any better then the camaros. Once you get into that boss intake, running e85 and such then a bolton camaro has no chance I understand that, a cam will even things out for the camaro. A few cam only camaros have been 10s... Both cars are great, but both cars need to be modded different! The camaro is not going to run what a stang runs with the same parts, its a different car and requires a different setup.

The Boss intake doesn't make much difference for those cars, to be honest because it's optimized for high RPM road racing. They tend to hurt power down low and only until you get above 7k RPMs do they actually make a negligable difference.

[Bad70supreme]

What are talking about, they pull more RPM with that intake and that equals more speed! The mustange has nothing down low to begine with, they run hard at high rpms. Add rpms and power up top were they use it is definitly making a difference!