best place for tune in dfw

[RocketCutlass]

How does 21st century's tuners have 18+ years experience tuning LS powered cars when the LS motor has only been being put in production cars since '97? Or is that combined experience?

[jlugo]

Thanks John, definitely a pleasure doing business with you...I LOVE MY CAR!!!
The guys were awesome to work with. "Second To None" in Custumer Services.
Matt and James have been tuning LS cars for over 18 years combined and are some of the best in the business.
Theres also a full time fabricator that have been doing LS mods and custom fab work for almost 10 years now.


Twenty First Century Muscle Cars - "Authorized Lingenfelter and Callaway Dealer"

[mws444]

Originally Posted by FloMoCamaro

As you can clearly see in my signature, I am a proud ADM customer – and here is my 2 cents…
Before modifying my 2010 Camaro, I did my research on ALL the shops I could find in the DFW area and here are some of the reasons I chose ADM Performance:
1. ADM specializes in the 5th Gen Camaro. 99% of ADM’s business is the 5th Gen Camaro. ADM has hundreds (yes a said hundreds) of 5th Gen customers – bottom line, I look at it like this – I don’t go to a Mexican restaurant to get a burger.
2. Reputation – One of the biggest reasons in my book. ADM Perormance's reputation is second to none!!! – Knowledge, professional, quality, great customer service, good pricing and attention to detail are some of the words that everyone is using to describe ADM Performance.
3. Attention To Detail – Just look around Camaro5 and view the photos and videos. Compare the final product on similar builds from all the different shops - They speak for themselves…
I could go on-and-on with more reasons why to choose ADM, but I don’t want to be called a “Nut Swinger”. However, John, if you want to round-up the few of the 5th Gen’s you have done, I’m sure I can get a lot of my ADM Brothers together at a track of your choice and settle this once and for all. You and I both know that dyno numbers are just numbers and the proof is in the pedal… Just let us know and we can schedule a date…

Since Andy just did the last round of mods on my car and added 170 horses to the wheels I am game to race for ADM! This fall would be a blast.
I have yet to hit a really well prepped track, I know the car has at least a low 10 in her.

[sasquash1984]

Originally Posted by mws444

Congrats Andy!!!!
It is always nice to see a good guy, doing good work get a little recognition!
For all of the other shops trying to work this poll into some better press....Charge fair prices, do exceptional work, stand behind it 100% and treat your customers with respect. These are things that earn you a poll rating like ADM!

[GJG]

adm

[mws444]

Originally Posted by GJG

adm

I love your avitar!

[Pro-Tect Mobile]

Lucky's Speed and Performance is a great shop over in Longview. I have seen a lot of his work and Jason is a great guy. His reputation has allowed him to pick up all the of the local Viper owners work even though he is pretty much a GM guy. I would highly recommend him.

www.LuckysSpeed.com

[21STCENTURY]

Originally Posted by RocketCutlass

How does 21st century's tuners have 18+ years experience tuning LS powered cars when the LS motor has only been being put in production cars since '97? Or is that combined experience?

2 full time tuners at our shop, 1 with 10+ years exp., the other over 8 years experience

[pir]

I think if there is a dyno comparison to be made it should be done on the same dyno. If you want to compare apples to apples, it's the only way. Where you may see a 45-55 rwhp difference for the same mods, it also appears to be 52 rwhp difference between the baseline of every dyno I have ever seen from Andys machine. Just saying.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by pir

I think if there is a dyno comparison to be made it should be done on the same dyno. If you want to compare apples to apples, it's the only way. Where you may see a 45-55 rwhp difference for the same mods, it also appears to be 52 rwhp difference between the baseline of every dyno I have ever seen from Andys machine. Just saying.

Very true

[21STCENTURY]

Originally Posted by pir

I think if there is a dyno comparison to be made it should be done on the same dyno. If you want to compare apples to apples, it's the only way. Where you may see a 45-55 rwhp difference for the same mods, it also appears to be 52 rwhp difference between the baseline of every dyno I have ever seen from Andys machine. Just saying.

That is a very old excuse when these type of discrepancies in power show up.

Free dyno runs to anyone who wants to
bring em over, I will disprove that BS quickly!



Best Regards,
John Page
Twenty First Century Muscle Cars
www.21stcenturymusclecars
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[pir]

Not an excuse. Just cold hard truth. A 250 hp gain is a 250 hp gain. Doesn't matter what the starting number was. A dyno is just numbers anyway. I guess I should bring you my car to dyno so I can see a 754 rwhp dyno sheet on my car without doing anything but walking in the door. That would be sweet!!

[21STCENTURY]

Originally Posted by pir

Not an excuse. Just cold hard truth. A 250 hp gain is a 250 hp gain. Doesn't matter what the starting number was. A dyno is just numbers anyway. I guess I should bring you my car to dyno so I can see a 754 rwhp dyno sheet on my car without doing anything but walking in the door. That would be sweet!!

Congrats on the 698 rwhp, that is strong!
Yes Sir, I agree for the most part what you are saying and you are welcome to bring it by for comparison runs on our dyno. I won't charge you anything and I see you are from Shreveport, I will even bet you the cost of coming up here that the dyno #s on the same day, same conditions, same coolant & oil temps, same tire pressure, etc are the same that the dynos are within 5 between the two and ours is probably the lower of the two.

Prove me wrong and your trip up is free.

Best Regards,
John Page
www.21stcenturymusclecars

Check the vendor section for special deals
We will beat most anybodys price around

[DHSS]

Originally Posted by 21STCENTURYMUSCLECARS

Congrats on the 698 rwhp, that is strong!
Yes Sir, I agree for the most part what you are saying and you are welcome to bring it by for comparison runs on our dyno. I won't charge you anything and I see you are from Shreveport, I will even bet you the cost of coming up here that the dyno #s on the same day, same conditions, same coolant & oil temps, same tire pressure, etc are the same that the dynos are within 5 between the two and ours is probably the lower of the two.

Prove me wrong and your trip up is free.

Best Regards,
John Page
www.21stcenturymusclecars

Check the vendor section for special deals
We will beat most anybodys price around

Seems like Mr. Page is confident in what they are doing. Willing to pay for the trip? I like that John!!!