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2010_5thgen · 12-05-2009, 08:42 PM

PEDDERS MAKES THE BEST!!! cant wait till mine come in!!!! as of right now, without a doubt in my mind Pedders has the best sway bars on the market. 27 mm front and rear ?!?!! SOLID!?!?!? the BEST!

ipimpthisc · 09-26-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

ANY Camaro owner that is in any way dissatisfied their Pedders bits should contact their Dealer immediately. If they are not satisfied with the results of working with their Dealer they should call me at the office or my mobile. If there is a problem with ANY Pedders bit our Dealers, Staff and I will work with the customer to make it right. If we can't I will personally see to it they receive a refund for their parts. If the problem is urgent and cannot wait for normal business hours call my home phone.

Office 248.522.8021
Mobile 616.834.8100
Home 616.604.1962
PGB@PeddersUSA.com

To date the only issue I am aware of with Pedders bits for the Camaro is our inability to keep them in stock. I may be mistaken, but this post should bring any problems I am unaware of to our attention immediately.

From what i see this is a man who backs up his words, and I respect that whole heartedly

JusticePete · 09-27-2010, 12:37 PM

We have sway bars in stock!

blazzin1 · 09-27-2010, 03:38 PM

So I hear a lot of talk about the Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis, and BMR products. What about "Spohn Performance", anybody have any thoughts on their stuff??? I see their sway bars are 1.25" (Front tubular, Rear Solid). Looks to be a pretty good set.

After all this back-n-forth discussion, I'm still not sure that I can pick out any one manufacturer whose products are definitively better than another. At this point, I don't think it's even feasible for anyone to make that claim, is it?!?!? So what's the bottom line here, what are the determining factors that decide which is better? Is it the solid vs. tubular argument, overall diameter, wall thickness, manufacturing materials, or what? So has anyone else been able to decipher which sway bars are good...better...best? Or is it safe to say, just pick a reputable manufacturer (seems like all of them listed above), and it will probably be just as good as another??? I'm still so confused!!

JusticePete · 09-27-2010, 04:51 PM

Honestly it all comes down to if you want understeer or oversteer. The solid or hollow bars don't make the difference. The strength of the bar and the front to rear ratio of the bars are the key factors. The Pedders sway bar data has been available since October of 2009 on line. Here is a listing of bar strengths. We specifically do not name names because we believe each company should publish the strength of their bars and not just a percentage.

The Camaro5 community is well informed. You can add and subtract to determine which bar is the strongest, but be sure to watch the front to rear strength ratios as it has the most influence on understeer / oversteer. Competitor D has the strongest front bar and a relatively light rear bar. This setup will have the mot understeer of all that are available.

Pedders Solution C has the second strongest front bar and the strongest rear bar by a large margin. This setup will have the least understeer and at speed it will be in oversteer. Solution C would be a great setup for a person that loves twisties / road racing.

Our sway bars now ship with what we consider to be the best Camaro endlink available. The reason we USED to require drilling to open up the holes in the strut and lower control arm was to have a ball stud and shaft that were stronger than the OE and efficient for Pedders sways bars. We have now sourced an exceptionally efficient endlink ball joint that is also strong enough to meet our criteria WITHOUT drilling.

To get the most out of any sway bar upgrade you should be upgrading your endlinks. Pedders sway bars with the NEW STYLE ENDLINKs are in stock and shipping at the old price. We will be selling these eXtreme endlinks to use with OE bars or brand-x bars at about $60 more per pair than the old style links. That will push the price of a front and rear sway bar set up roughly $120 making the current pricing a Best Buy.

Some expert will chime in and sing the virtues of hollow over solid or solid over hollow. When that happens take a good look at what they sell

ZX1truth · 09-27-2010, 10:30 PM

Boy......I'm thinkin there needs to be a Pfadt /Pedder Camaro shootout on this one. Winner takes all!

axis · 09-28-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZX1truth

Boy......I'm thinkin there needs to be a Pfadt /Pedder Camaro shootout on this one. Winner takes all!

And how would you go about testing them? What parameters would you use? Strength test is pointless as i've yet to hear of anyone bending or breaking the OEM sways. It's more about balance and the philosophy behind their products. As has been said in NUMEROUS threads, you can't go wrong with either. 99% of the users will NEVER reach the limits of eithers bars. Pick the one you like and enjoy, knowing you have a quality part.

ipimpthisc · 10-01-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

And how would you go about testing them? What parameters would you use? Strength test is pointless as i've yet to hear of anyone bending or breaking the OEM sways. It's more about balance and the philosophy behind their products. As has been said in NUMEROUS threads, you can't go wrong with either. 99% of the users will NEVER reach the limits of eithers bars. Pick the one you like and enjoy, knowing you have a quality part.

I fully agree, uness u are going ballz out...any one of these products will suit u...i wen with a good least expensive set with good review..I choose LMR...i will post my results upon installation.

JusticePete · 10-01-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

And how would you go about testing them? What parameters would you use? Strength test is pointless as i've yet to hear of anyone bending or breaking the OEM sways. It's more about balance and the philosophy behind their products. As has been said in NUMEROUS threads, you can't go wrong with either. 99% of the users will NEVER reach the limits of eithers bars. Pick the one you like and enjoy, knowing you have a quality part.

Strength is more about the amount of lean and roll you will experience than it is breaking. You are dead nuts on with the front to rear bar size / balance of the car. An aggressive driver will want the strangest bars with the most aggressive ratio to create the most neutral Camaro possible that matches their driving style. It could be a single front bar or bigger front and rear bars or a bigger front bar with a HUGE rear bar.

Pick the one you like and enjoy, knowing you have a quality part. Once again, dead nuts spot on.

12-05-2009, 08:42 PM	#29
2010_5thgen Drives: 2012 Porsche Panamera 4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,275 View My Garage	PEDDERS MAKES THE BEST!!! cant wait till mine come in!!!! as of right now, without a doubt in my mind Pedders has the best sway bars on the market. 27 mm front and rear ?!?!! SOLID!?!?!? the BEST! __________________ Brixton Forged CM10 Wheels IN STOCK!!! RF7 SOON!!!! Camaro/M3/M4 wheels in stock High Gloss Titanium

09-27-2010, 10:30 PM	#34
ZX1truth Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 592	Boy......I'm thinkin there needs to be a Pfadt /Pedder Camaro shootout on this one. Winner takes all! __________________ LME built LSX427 w/t all Callies internals\| AGP 65/65 TT \| Holley Sniper Intake \| Brodix BR3/LME custom ported \| LME custom cam \| Pro EFI 112 ECU \| ID-1700x \| NGK BR7EF \| AGP's-Fore Triple Fuel pump \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| ZL1 3.23 diff, CF driveshaft, ZL1 axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw \| Pfadt solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Ground Control camber/caster plates \| Accelerated Racing Solutions tuned\| God is too good! I don't deserve it, but I sure will accept it!!!

09-27-2010, 12:37 PM	#31
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	We have sway bars in stock!

09-27-2010, 03:38 PM	#32
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	So I hear a lot of talk about the Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis, and BMR products. What about "Spohn Performance", anybody have any thoughts on their stuff??? I see their sway bars are 1.25" (Front tubular, Rear Solid). Looks to be a pretty good set. After all this back-n-forth discussion, I'm still not sure that I can pick out any one manufacturer whose products are definitively better than another. At this point, I don't think it's even feasible for anyone to make that claim, is it?!?!? So what's the bottom line here, what are the determining factors that decide which is better? Is it the solid vs. tubular argument, overall diameter, wall thickness, manufacturing materials, or what? So has anyone else been able to decipher which sway bars are good...better...best? Or is it safe to say, just pick a reputable manufacturer (seems like all of them listed above), and it will probably be just as good as another??? I'm still so confused!!

09-27-2010, 04:51 PM	#33
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Honestly it all comes down to if you want understeer or oversteer. The solid or hollow bars don't make the difference. The strength of the bar and the front to rear ratio of the bars are the key factors. The Pedders sway bar data has been available since October of 2009 on line. Here is a listing of bar strengths. We specifically do not name names because we believe each company should publish the strength of their bars and not just a percentage. The Camaro5 community is well informed. You can add and subtract to determine which bar is the strongest, but be sure to watch the front to rear strength ratios as it has the most influence on understeer / oversteer. Competitor D has the strongest front bar and a relatively light rear bar. This setup will have the mot understeer of all that are available. Pedders Solution C has the second strongest front bar and the strongest rear bar by a large margin. This setup will have the least understeer and at speed it will be in oversteer. Solution C would be a great setup for a person that loves twisties / road racing. Our sway bars now ship with what we consider to be the best Camaro endlink available. The reason we USED to require drilling to open up the holes in the strut and lower control arm was to have a ball stud and shaft that were stronger than the OE and efficient for Pedders sways bars. We have now sourced an exceptionally efficient endlink ball joint that is also strong enough to meet our criteria WITHOUT drilling. To get the most out of any sway bar upgrade you should be upgrading your endlinks. Pedders sway bars with the NEW STYLE ENDLINKs are in stock and shipping at the old price. We will be selling these eXtreme endlinks to use with OE bars or brand-x bars at about $60 more per pair than the old style links. That will push the price of a front and rear sway bar set up roughly $120 making the current pricing a *Best Buy.* Some expert will chime in and sing the virtues of hollow over solid or solid over hollow. When that happens take a good look at what they sell