Why would I want a Z/28 over the ZL1?

[mmarx82]

I just saw the time difference, I'd say stock/stock you guys are right, the Z/28 is no big deal. I wonder what could be changed aftermarket to make it better than the ZL1 in a noticeable way. I also wonder if the ZL1 was a bit lower stock (get that inch drop in there) if it couldn't turn a faster time than the Z/28 just did.

[rexdogg]

very interesting and informative discussion.......I've always been a Z/28 fan (own a '69), and now own a 2013 ZL1.....to be fair, my ZL1 is modded (725 rwhp), so much that the car is insane at WOT.......anyway, the new Z/28 is quite the car.....both vehicles are at the top of their game, imo

[NightmareZL1]

I just prefer the better and faster car, which is the ZL1 with stickier Z28 tires.

I can not wait until an online reviewer puts the same rubber on both cars and does a head to head. It's going to be embarrassing for the z28.

I have pulled more than 1G at 110 - 115 mph. Done often, and on the same turn. By myself, with an empty gas tank or with a passanger and a full gas tank. Do you know what is very apparent...The tires are the weak point everytime, the 300lbs of passenger and gas is not felt. I have the same traction limit with or without the 300lbs.

So, give the ZL1 sticky tires, and give us lap times VS the Z28 - Yes, GM, talking to YOU. You gave the Z06 and the Zr1 sticky rubber for better ring times, so lets see what your real King Camaro can do with actual grip, instead of slip.

[joeybsyc]

Originally Posted by ZL1 Spoked

Then you must be super upset you only have an SS

Nope, but I don't claim my car is better than a Z/28 either....

[joeybsyc]

Originally Posted by hidden_dragon

Frankly, the baddest rarest Camaro there is is probably the COPO...not the Z/28. However, that being said, the Z/28 is the street-legal version.

Very true... agreed.

[joeybsyc]

Originally Posted by Sven59

Two different cars, one a track car the other a drag car. IMO the ZL1 is baddest because it does everything so well and it is the most powerfull.

Unless you're comparing the ZL1 to a GT500 on the drag strip, then it's a track car again.

[SCHUSS]

It was also raining when the Z/28 ran.

[jessrayo]

Originally Posted by AirBull

Am I wrong here? Am I the only one who sees the new Z/28 and am just not that impressed? For me, the new Z/28 maybe more expensive than the ZL1, but the ZL1 is still King of the Camaro, and I'm fine with that.

First off I bought my ZL1 with the intention of making a road course monster. The Z/28 was not available when I was ready to build a car so it was not an option. I like what they did with the Z/28 to make it lighter. I'm a huge fan of better braking and would be willing to consider the ceramic brakes.....

The LS7 motor is not going to make the kind of power my car does without adding either a supercharger or turbos..... My car is faster in the .375 mile straight at eagles canyon than the stock Z/28 was on the 1.3 mile straight on the ring..... that is totally unacceptable to me in a V8 track car...If I just wanted fast corners I would buy a Lotus or Boxster (already owned a Miata), I want to RUN down the straights..

I think if I was starting over today building another track car I would take a hard look at the Z/28. I think an 800 hp Z/28 would be a very good track car. It seems possible that the Z/28 has already been pushed to it's limits everywhere but the motor. When any one of them makes my ZL1 look bad I'll give it another look, until then I agree with AirBull, the ZL1 is still king in my book.

[ffcars]

I wouldn't buy a Z28. If I needed a GM track car, I'd buy the real thing; a Z06.

The Camaro ZL1 is a 4 seat car that can be used every day and still do track days. Depending on driver ability, the times between a ZL1 and Z28 won't be much different.

Bill

[DDoug]

Actually, the Z/28 has smaller rims, 19's vs. 20's. Less unsprung weight.

But, even though the tires are the same size all around, I saw that the fronts are 11" wide, rears are 11.5". Why? 10.5's all around would work fine, be lighter and, technically, be rotatable.

7:37 is not etched in stone, there's more to come!

100 seconds in the rain
55 degree temperature
6 months until production
"best" fully recorded lap, so far

But, at the end of the day, I can't make either car "dance" to their full potential, so it's all a moot point.

Hey, if I could swing a second Camaro, it would be a Z/28. Own 2 of the best modern Camaros ever made? I'm in!

[TripleBlkZL1]

Originally Posted by ffcars

I wouldn't buy a Z28. If I needed a GM track car, I'd buy the real thing; a Z06.

Bill

Agree

[lbls1]

I really would not go there with the Z/28 vs. ZL1 debate. Looking at a glance, it may seem puzzling that chevy would produce two pony cars that are relatively heavy and a tad underpowered to Ford's GT500.

Looking closely at the attributes of the ZL1 and Z/28, to me the purpose of both cars are clear and distinct. The Z/28 is absolutely legendary in terms of track handling. It is purposely built for running on the track. The ZL1 also has its purpose, in that it offers a more rounded performance offering of (considerable) track ability, street and/or touring performance, and daily driving amenities. Both cars counter the Ford with better handling and driveability; While admitingly that's a hard sell in terms of street racing, on the other hand the improved track abilities have made camaro a name to recognize in terms of modern car performance.

I wouldn't get into a debate as to which camaro is better etc., because each model has its own distinct purpose and identity. You can only determine which car is best for one's purpose and objective.

[LBV]

Everything I've read says the Z28 will be more expensive and THAT I can't understand when you compare content and HP.

Generally, the higher HP car is always more expensive. Throw in the fact that the Z28 is de-contented and the only reason GM is pricing it more is because they know that there'll be buyers for the limited run (Ford's been doing the limited run thing for years now with all those special Mustangs ... GM's finally getting in on it).

I know it's capitalism but you can bet your bottom dollar they're making waaay more profit on the Z28 than they are on the ZL1 and I think it's wrong personally.

[NightmareZL1]

Originally Posted by ffcars

I wouldn't buy a Z28. If I needed a GM track car, I'd buy the real thing; a Z06.

Bill

Amen to that!