08-18-2011, 08:49 AM | #253 |
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I sent Nick at BFXAUTO an e-mail this morning concerning this and the 225.00 he owes me for the balancing attempt I made. He wanted me to see if it was a balancing issue before sending them back and I did....225.00 later they still had to go back. So I am waiting on the 225.00 and any word on what they are going to do about these wheels, now that they have been back, "Fixed" and still vibrate.
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08-18-2011, 08:53 AM | #254 |
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The tolerance that Savini apperently uses as 'standard' (a joke considering it's a standard used by even the cheapest of wheels) is too loose for 22 inch wheels I guess.
They got mine ok. But ok doesn't cut it with this tyupe of money. GoDaddy.com here I come. lol |
08-18-2011, 09:16 AM | #255 |
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Too bad. I hope you get 100% of your money back.
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08-18-2011, 10:32 AM | #256 | |
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I do too, I have sent the e-mails and are waiting on an response........ |
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08-18-2011, 10:53 AM | #257 | |
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I say Savini sucks. I still get PMs regularly asking what wheels these are. Of course, nobody asking will ever buy any from Savini. |
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08-18-2011, 11:06 AM | #258 | |
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I too like you get MANY PM's about my wheels. Since I do not race the performance aspect really doesn't play into for me, mine was mainly for looks and A LOT of people are in my boat, they just want some pretty wheels, well ones that do not vibrate. I could have sold at least 15 sets of these wheels IF they had just taken care of the problems, now they have lost these sales because I really don't think that anybody would buy a set of Savini wheels after talking with me. The issues are really simple from what I can tell, vibration and finish issues. Well hell that is why you buy aftermarket wheels is the finish ( LOOKS) and of course no one wants a wobbly wheel. Last edited by Dr Jkel; 08-18-2011 at 11:33 AM. |
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08-18-2011, 11:22 AM | #259 |
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Agreed.
The perfomance guys never even ask about my wheels. Even the guys here at Rent&Roll, Gulf Coast Customs and Big Ten all are just amazed at them. You tend to quit going to different places when they all say the same thing. |
08-18-2011, 11:35 AM | #260 |
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The real sad part is you see people all the time who paid A LOT less for their wheels and have Zero issues with them. Look at Emma's new wheels-no issues at all with them. Several others have bought "Less" whatever you want to call it, wheels and they are fine. I guess in this case Less is definitely MORE.
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08-18-2011, 11:41 AM | #261 | |
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08-18-2011, 11:44 AM | #262 |
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Yeah that is the ticket, I will just shine them up and look at them, drive 15 pmh and never drive my car faster than that.....Ok I got it now, that is what I was doing wrong........Driving My Car.
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08-18-2011, 11:51 AM | #263 |
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I'd probably just start the CC reversal process and ship them back.
Further communication with them is only going to result in them jerking you around. |
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When you had the balancing done, they checked the tires for total indicated runout (TIR), right? And were they road-forced balanced? If not, how did they do it?
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08-18-2011, 06:49 PM | #265 |
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When Butler Tire in Atlanta tried to balance the tires the used a machine to balance them, they road forced balanced them and then they had a machine that balanced them on the car. The machine was a high speed balancing machine that spun the wheels while on the car and indicated if it needed weights etc.....So I dont know.
They re-indexed the tires to eliminate some of the weight, re indexed the wheels on the car to rty and get them smooth etc... I SHOULD NOT have to be going through all this for a set of wheels, should be able to bolt them on and GO....SMOOTHLY. Still waiting on a response from them........ |
08-19-2011, 07:02 AM | #266 |
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UPDATE on the wheels saga.
Well I heard from BFXAUTO this morning when I checked my e-mail. I would like to say I am shocked but in all honesty I am not surprised by the response.
I will cut and pasted what Nick at BFXAUTO wrote. "John, First off, I want to apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you and I understand that there are things outside our control that can cause frustration. I have stood behind you and done my best working with Savini to get your wheels perfect. I have spoken with the tech that mounted and balanced the wheels because I wanted to know exactly how the process went, and this is what he said. "The run out of the wheel was way *under* tolerance. The tires were indexed to the wheel and road force balanced. The wheels took hardly any weight and spun perfectly. These wheels balanced perfectly." This is right in accord with the numbers that Savini sent from their run out test: Run out Reading (mm) Centerbore (mm) Inner Rim Outer Rim C.B. 1st wheel 0.40mm 0.38mm 67.0mm 2nd Wheel 0.41mm 0.30mm 67.0mm 3rd Wheel 0.38mm 0.28mm 67.0mm 4th Wheel 0.46mm 0.33mm 67.0mm These numbers indicate the amount of movement that the wheel makes when it spins. This is reading that the most movement is .46 of 1mm. Less than 1/2mm of movement at the most. At this time, Savini has done everything they can to get you perfect wheels. Savini and I have done everything to make sure these wheels don't vibrate, so the problem must reside elsewhere." Well if these wheels are so perfect tehn why do they vibrate? Nick( BFXAUTO ) stated early on in this process that he took care of his customers, that he would make these wheels right etc...... You know it is real funny that in PQ's case they blamed the people who mounted the tires, they blamed his driving they blamed everything else. Since I alleviated all that by having them mount and balance the tires before I got them, they did not have anyone else to blame.....NOW they are balming the car. How in the hell is it the cars fault? If there is any issues with my car, which I highly doubt, then the SAVINI WHEELS caused the issue. So is Savini saying that their wheels will damage your car? Kinda looking reall funny that PQ is have issues on his car, MAYBE it IS the wheels causing the issues on his car. BFXAUTO and Savini are in this together. Nick tried to play the good cop in this until now there is a point of no return because Savini has done all they say they can and they still vibrate, leaving Nick stuck with an unhappy customer who he is giving up on, turning his back on. Which make me wonder about BFXAuto as a vendor, person and as a man. Nick told me that he would balance the wheels and make sure they were correct, but in the e-mail he said that he talked to the tech who balanced them. SO BFX does not really mount and balance wheels. I guess this is just another case of a garage selling vendor who has an internet business and a phone booth. I tell you this after these issuses I would be suspect of ANY vendor who pushed Savini wheels. The people are a bunch of rip off artist and con men. I never thought Nick would be on that boat but he has firmly sided with Savini on this and junped right in the middle of the boat with them.... with in tolerance my ass. If these wheels are smooth and vibration free then my ass is a sewing machine. I sent Nick an e-mail, I am real sure he will respond quickly, yeah right. But we will see. |
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