10-15-2012, 01:04 PM | #15 |
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After installing my F-1D on my G8 and driving it for only two days, my car started experiencing cavitation and shutting down. The fuel rails were extremely hot to the touch and would not start until cooling off for at least an hour or so. I had it towed to the shop to diagnose the fuel problems. Hooked up a fuel pressure gauge and it would hit a max of 5psi then drop to 0. Drop the tank to find this on my Stealth A1000
After sending it back for a new pump and adding the pump speed controller and MSD tach adapter. We also had to figure out the wiring for the tach adapter, because Aeromotive's directions were printed wrong and they referred us to MSD, who also did not have a clue and tried to sell me another model tach adapter. After the wiring was figured out, the car has been running just fine and staying cool. Im still waiting to see what happens. If it this one goes, I plan on buying the Squash setup.
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10-15-2012, 03:11 PM | #16 | |
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I did find out I can access the fuel pump wiring from the rear passenger seat, so i'll see what kind of voltage reading im getting. If its constant voltage, hopefully its just the filter. Thanks for all the replies guys, give me some things to think about and test!
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10-16-2012, 07:19 AM | #18 | |
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http://fuelab.com/customer-support/2...ing-cavitation http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-ind...plication.html I would recommend trying it with a full tank (the fuel pump can't heat the whole tank too much), adding an inline fuel cooler, and/or adding the volt regulator from Aeromotive. In that order. That's what I'm going to do. BTW, cavitation can kill a fuel pump (but not always), which is maybe why some guys have seen failures. Good luck, Padre |
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10-16-2012, 03:03 PM | #19 | |
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10-16-2012, 10:09 PM | #20 | |
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Make sure it is wired by itself and not in any way hooked to the stock wiring. This way you know it is getting all the power it needs and that somehow your ECM is trying to limit power to the pumps like some sort of limiter.
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10-17-2012, 12:21 AM | #21 |
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the more I look at this thread the better I feel i didnt jump on the aero...if it has all these variables, and confusing stuff...I am out....I am starting to feel like this is the thread on the ******* grill..just all kinda stories..ughhh.
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10-21-2012, 02:55 PM | #22 |
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One more quick thought/tip on these pumps - You MUST use a relay mounted as close to the pump as possible with dedicated wiring. Thinking back on early installs, this caused a lot of headaches when not done. Hope that helps.
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10-21-2012, 03:41 PM | #23 |
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Location of the relay is less important than using proper quality wiring.
Does nobody make a setup to run a pair of Bosch 044's or similar ? They flow very well, and are 100% reliable. And unlike most other pumps, dont fall flat on their face when you the fuel pressure rises. |
11-18-2012, 04:34 PM | #24 |
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Garbage... 80 street miles on it and a few track passes, two 9-second passes, most were aborts from traction woes....
Made a single dyno pass last night on my combo, at 6100RPM's it went to ~20psi and crapped the bed. Screwed the regulator all the way down just to see, now the pump even with regulator all the way in makes maybe 40psi tops at idle. I have mine completely isolated with a single relay, running 10ga wire. I've installed probably 200+ of their series pumps in numerous applications (All externals). Maybe I have a problem with the internal line, right now do not know what went wrong, frankly don't care I'll never use another Aeromotive series internal pump again. Made 737rwhp through the unlocked 4l60E at 16psi @ 6100rpms.. Would have cracked 800+ on the low boost if I could have made a pass to 72. |
11-18-2012, 06:17 PM | #25 |
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I talked to Jesse from Aeromotive at SEMA. I told him all the issues I was having with the system and he's working with me on troubleshooting the issue, and promised to get me taken care of.
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11-18-2012, 06:55 PM | #26 |
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Squash is the way I'm going. Last thing I want is something going wrong at wot. Just need to watch the air/fuel gauge more closely now
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11-18-2012, 06:58 PM | #27 | |
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I think most people are having problems due to poorly designed kits/wiring and not having the pump speed controller which is a must with an A1000 or bigger on the street. To the OP, how much power are you making? The A1000 is rated at 1000bhp with FI on a fuel injected motor per aeromotive's website, that should be around 850rwhp. You could try to set your base fuel pressure at 50psi and do the pull one more time, the pump probably cant flow that much fuel at that high of a pressure.
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11-19-2012, 07:15 AM | #28 |
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Good thing about his kit is you can choose the pump you want. 1 big pump, 2 big pumps, 2 small pumps, whatever combo you like. Just call him. You run one pump all the time till a certain boost level, with his integrated hardware, fuel pressure regulator. And misc. parts. Over the last few years, he has perfected his setup.
Huge success in the g8 world. |
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