05-21-2015, 02:33 PM | #1 |
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GM says you dont own your car they do
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05-21-2015, 02:38 PM | #2 |
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so now instead of a tune you will have to replace the computer lol
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Hmmm now where did I put that screw
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05-21-2015, 02:44 PM | #3 |
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there saying that they own the code (language) that makes everything communicate. You would have to change all of that to.
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05-21-2015, 02:47 PM | #4 |
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05-21-2015, 02:48 PM | #5 |
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This will never fly or past muster. Once you purchase said car, or let's say a Microsoft OS disc, you can and people do modify to their liking. If somebody modifies a car and the airbags do not deploy in a crash, that is their own damn problem.
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05-21-2015, 02:51 PM | #6 |
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need to sell my airbags to pay for a supercharger just install foam on the steering wheel like my jet ski has.
problem solved lol
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Hmmm now where did I put that screw
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05-21-2015, 02:53 PM | #7 |
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They're saying the code falls under protection of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and they want it enforced. There are hearings now to create an exemption to let 3rd parties (tuners) have access. GM is leading the charge against it. Wish they would spend my money on other things. An unauthorized incremented flash counter should absolve them of responsibility. However, I think they are more concerned with someone messing with safety SW than engine management.
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05-21-2015, 02:53 PM | #8 |
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Repost repost repost of a topic that was broached weeks ago about copyright laws regarding modification of vehicle software, ECU's etc.
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05-21-2015, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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05-21-2015, 02:59 PM | #10 |
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Ugh when worlds collide-the DMCA is what is ruining software innovation, and now it's spilling over to gearheads :-/
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Another cool option would be if GM hire these tuners to work in their shop to be part of the performance divison. I know there are a few but going to the dealer for a dyno or whatever would be awesome and money for them.
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05-21-2015, 03:26 PM | #12 |
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If they own my car then they can pay the insurance and all the maintenance as well.
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05-21-2015, 03:35 PM | #13 |
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Smartphone producers already tried this, and got shot down pretty quickly by the US Gov't last year. I don't see the automakers being able to get away with it, either.
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05-21-2015, 03:52 PM | #14 |
The gritos pollo!!!
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They have been crying about this for years. The can't have it both ways. It will not pass. Now if your dumb enough to to tune a leased car I get that, but my title doesn't say General Motors under the owner box
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