Help me undersand the 2SS tire issue in below freezing temps. - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

cremaley · 01-03-2010, 05:25 PM

I have read several threads concerning the safety of summer tires on the 2SS when driving in below freezing temps. The temperture here for the last few days has started in the teens and did not get much above freezing. I have driven my 2SS during that time and did not notice any difference than when the temperature was in the high 60s. Is this simply much to do about nothing! I could understand if we had sleet or snow but in dry cold weather I don't see a problem.

mtcwby · 01-03-2010, 05:32 PM

The Pirellis are just fine in sub freezing temps. They naturally will spin easier because the rubber gets harder, but once you've gone a few miles and warm them up they are just fine. Now it's a different story in hard packed snow.

wullger · 01-03-2010, 05:34 PM

If you're driving around in temperatures that cold without letting the tires warm up first, you will feel a difference in handling. Also, if you give it a little gas, or accelerate too fast, you may break the back end loose without meaning to

SilverIce1 · 01-03-2010, 05:36 PM

Good grief! You must be one of those people that insists on learning things the hard way... May no one get hurt while you do so.

cremaley · 01-03-2010, 05:37 PM

I could not agree more. Driving on hard packed snow is a totally different story. Thankfully, we don't get much snow in the Atlanta area.

drtwo · 01-03-2010, 05:38 PM

It was 10 below here and the tires feel like they are made of metal. They spin even on dry pavement if I step on it! Too much power for the low grip. I feel like I'm driving on ice the whole time!

They also have VERY obvious flat spots when I start out. bump-bump, bump-bump, bump-bump... it's aweful.

cremaley · 01-03-2010, 05:41 PM

SilverIce1: If I feel a difference in the handling I will stop driving my 2SS and switch to my Audi TT. In the mean time, its full speed ahead.

cremaley · 01-03-2010, 05:43 PM

We also don't get 10 below in Atlanta. Thank God!

Oldrocker · 01-03-2010, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtwo

It was 10 below here and the tires feel like they are made of metal. They spin even on dry pavement if I step on it! Too much power for the low grip. I feel like I'm driving on ice the whole time!

They also have VERY obvious flat spots when I start out. bump-bump, bump-bump, bump-bump... it's aweful.

Mine spin when I step on it too, even when it was 90 degrees. I also have the problem with flat spots, even in the Summer. After a mile or so they ride fine. If these tires are that dangerous to drive on in the cold I wouldn't think GM would use them. I know they are summer tires but with a little common sense they are just fine on cold dry pavement.

mtcwby · 01-03-2010, 05:56 PM

You can't bullet-proof the world, as much as some would like to!!!
Common sense goes a long ways in anything we do.

cremaley · 01-03-2010, 05:56 PM

Oldrocker: You could not have put it better. A little common sense goes a long way.

colorado pony · 01-03-2010, 06:18 PM

today tires have diffent rubber mixes.... summer tires are make from soft rubber comprounds that will harded soon in cold weather... m/s tires are made to harded at a lower temp...... snow tires are make not to harded at all...... it all in the mix of rubber and chemistry as to how a tire well preformer in the snow or in the summer

kardut · 01-03-2010, 07:43 PM

Ok...here is probably a stupid question from a newbie, but...

If the summer tires are so awful in the cold and snow (which I'm sure they are, I'm not doubting that...), how do the drivers take the cars safely from the Oshawa plant to the striping factory, a 12-mile or so roundtrip, safely during the Canadian winter?

(Just wondering 'cause my car has a TPW of 1/18, and I want it to arrive safe and sound

)

Verio · 01-05-2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kardut

Ok...here is probably a stupid question from a newbie, but...

If the summer tires are so awful in the cold and snow (which I'm sure they are, I'm not doubting that...), how do the drivers take the cars safely from the Oshawa plant to the striping factory, a 12-mile or so roundtrip, safely during the Canadian winter?

(Just wondering 'cause my car has a TPW of 1/18, and I want it to arrive safe and sound

)

Well, obviously since it's so dangerous... they put special "Winter Only" tires that GM has been hiding on us....

Guess what? It was 18 degree's this morning and my car drove fine. It's been below freezing almost since October, and guess what? My car drove fine.

Don't slam the accelerator everytime you're at a damn stop light, and you wont spin your backend loose. It's common sense for any winter period.

01-03-2010, 05:25 PM	#1
cremaley 10 SS Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dacula, Georgia Posts: 62	Help me undersand the 2SS tire issue in below freezing temps. I have read several threads concerning the safety of summer tires on the 2SS when driving in below freezing temps. The temperture here for the last few days has started in the teens and did not get much above freezing. I have driven my 2SS during that time and did not notice any difference than when the temperature was in the high 60s. Is this simply much to do about nothing! I could understand if we had sleet or snow but in dry cold weather I don't see a problem.

01-03-2010, 05:32 PM	#2
mtcwby High on "The Camaro Life" Drives: 2010 2SS, IOM, LS3, Vortech, LG cam Join Date: May 2009 Location: Big Sandy, MT & Yuma, AZ Posts: 1,028 View My Garage	The Pirellis are just fine in sub freezing temps. They naturally will spin easier because the rubber gets harder, but once you've gone a few miles and warm them up they are just fine. Now it's a different story in hard packed snow. __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."-Thomas Jefferson------Going Strong at 39,250 miles

01-03-2010, 05:34 PM	#3
wullger Supercharged Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 1,576 View My Garage	If you're driving around in temperatures that cold without letting the tires warm up first, you will feel a difference in handling. Also, if you give it a little gas, or accelerate too fast, you may break the back end loose without meaning to __________________ 2SS/RS IBM A6, White Rallies Ordered: 4/30/09 Delivered: 8/18/09 Appearance Mods: Heritage Grille, ZL1 Replica Wheels Performance Mods: Flowmaster ARH Cat-Back Exhaust, ADM CAI, ADM L99-LS3 Conversion, ADM LSA Supercharger Kit, Lingenfelter GT9 Cam, Stainless Power Headers, Detroit Speed Sway Bars, ZL1 Fuel Pump 581 rwhp/535 lb/ft tq

01-03-2010, 05:38 PM	#6
drtwo Drives: 2SS RS Yellow, Raptor, Vrod Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 599 View My Garage	It was 10 below here and the tires feel like they are made of metal. They spin even on dry pavement if I step on it! Too much power for the low grip. I feel like I'm driving on ice the whole time! They also have VERY obvious flat spots when I start out. bump-bump, bump-bump, bump-bump... it's aweful. __________________ 2SS RS Rally Yellow, LS3, M6, sunroof, extra on the fast!

01-03-2010, 05:56 PM	#10
mtcwby High on "The Camaro Life" Drives: 2010 2SS, IOM, LS3, Vortech, LG cam Join Date: May 2009 Location: Big Sandy, MT & Yuma, AZ Posts: 1,028 View My Garage	You can't bullet-proof the world, as much as some would like to!!! Common sense goes a long ways in anything we do. __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."-Thomas Jefferson------Going Strong at 39,250 miles

01-03-2010, 05:36 PM	#4
SilverIce1 Silver Ice Drives: 2010 SIM 2LT Automatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Central Kansas Posts: 191	Good grief! You must be one of those people that insists on learning things the hard way... May no one get hurt while you do so.

01-03-2010, 05:37 PM	#5
cremaley 10 SS Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dacula, Georgia Posts: 62	I could not agree more. Driving on hard packed snow is a totally different story. Thankfully, we don't get much snow in the Atlanta area.

01-03-2010, 05:41 PM	#7
cremaley 10 SS Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dacula, Georgia Posts: 62	SilverIce1: If I feel a difference in the handling I will stop driving my 2SS and switch to my Audi TT. In the mean time, its full speed ahead.

01-03-2010, 05:43 PM	#8
cremaley 10 SS Drives: 2010 camaro 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dacula, Georgia Posts: 62	We also don't get 10 below in Atlanta. Thank God!

01-03-2010, 06:18 PM	#12
colorado pony Drives: 1972 nova ss Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: colorado Posts: 36	tire make up today tires have diffent rubber mixes.... summer tires are make from soft rubber comprounds that will harded soon in cold weather... m/s tires are made to harded at a lower temp...... snow tires are make not to harded at all...... it all in the mix of rubber and chemistry as to how a tire well preformer in the snow or in the summer

01-03-2010, 07:43 PM	#13
kardut Drives: 2SS/RS RY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bristow, VA Posts: 67	Ok...here is probably a stupid question from a newbie, but... If the summer tires are so awful in the cold and snow (which I'm sure they are, I'm not doubting that...), how do the drivers take the cars safely from the Oshawa plant to the striping factory, a 12-mile or so roundtrip, safely during the Canadian winter? (Just wondering 'cause my car has a TPW of 1/18, and I want it to arrive safe and sound )

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