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Old 10-12-2007, 02:07 PM   #15
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I seen a video that said it is over 1000hp, I think it was dyno'ed but has never been on a track. it did down really mean though,

i found a vid on youtube, he was in a parking lot. It was different than the CamaroSpike is talking about
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:21 PM   #16
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I seen a video that said it is over 1000hp, I think it was dyno'ed but has never been on a track. it did down really mean though,

i found a vid on youtube, he was in a parking lot. It was different than the CamaroSpike is talking about
oh, yeah, im sure it can put out 1000hp, but I would not want to be the one to drive it down the track. that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much stickin thru and too much to break for a serious run. the funny thing is, you could get the same amount of hp with one blower and not have to worry about over compressing the second housing. then again they are prolly runnin huge pulleys to keep the actual amt of boost within control.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:47 PM   #17
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who taught you that?

I have no idea...nobody I know personally knows anything about cars....
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there are some turbo systems that will give you good low end torque, but a s/c will boost you all the time, not just once the turbo spools.
^I mean that regarding to centrifugals...cause I don't see the point of any other style <That's based on research and personal preference (and besides the point)...When you've got a centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost untill right near, if not at redline....whereas once Turbos are spooled, that boost pressure is maintained.

Then you get the flipside...Centrifugals never drop off their power, whereas Turbos tend to lose their boost a little towards high rpms...according to what I've seen.

as the saying goes...6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:56 PM   #18
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Well, specifically I was thinking more along the lines of this pic. Here's a video of it in action http://5thgen.vidiac.com/hottestvide...d16951f600.htm Oh, and I found both of these at http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=blower
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Now that ^^^ is a sweet 5th Gen.

Why do I never see cars driving around like that? I've seen them at car shows a lot, sure, but never driving along on the highway. Are they not street legal, or is that setup just too cost prohibitive?

Also, if I were to walk into an aftermarket performance shop and ask for that exact setup, what would I be asking for? I know almost nothing about turbos and superchargers except what I've read on this site, so I definitely can't recognize them when I see them.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:27 PM   #20
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I have no idea...nobody I know personally knows anything about cars....


^I mean that regarding to centrifugals...cause I don't see the point of any other style <That's based on research and personal preference (and besides the point)...When you've got a centrifugal, it doesn't make peak boost untill right near, if not at redline....whereas once Turbos are spooled, that boost pressure is maintained.

Then you get the flipside...Centrifugals never drop off their power, whereas Turbos tend to lose their boost a little towards high rpms...according to what I've seen.

as the saying goes...6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
ur talkin centrifugal s/c's right? cus technically a turbo is a type of centrifugal. lol

but with a centrifugal s/c, its basically the same as any other s/c just more piping/intercooler as far as function. it runs off a belt to force air into the engine. the problem with turbos is "once you get spooled" lol tho there are setups out there that are making good torque/hp down low, but not many. another thing with centrifugals is that the intake is down inside the engine bay, (unless you've done some work) limiting the amount of air they get compared to a traditional "thru the roof" blower.
the problem with 4th gens and s/cs is that unless you do some major modding, you can only run a centrifugal s/c. theres just not enough room to run a traditional style roots blower. (with the exception of the vette/LS1 roots s/c for the late 4th gens and the blower im workin on for my LT1)


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Now that ^^^ is a sweet 5th Gen.

Why do I never see cars driving around like that? I've seen them at car shows a lot, sure, but never driving along on the highway. Are they not street legal, or is that setup just too cost prohibitive?

Also, if I were to walk into an aftermarket performance shop and ask for that exact setup, what would I be asking for? I know almost nothing about turbos and superchargers except what I've read on this site, so I definitely can't recognize them when I see them.
because the ones that arent just a show car are race cars. and the ones who build them not intending to push them rarely take them out of the garage
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:17 PM   #21
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The same Turbo system on a goat...


Camarosopike...I'm not sure which you're supporting more? Centri-blowers, or Turbos? :p
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:14 PM   #22
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I think its funny when people think turbo's are for rice cars when Buchi first patented it back in 1905. lol Turbo's started to hit the mainstream auto industry back in the late 70's too help Diesel and belive it or not, GM was the first too use them in production cars in early 60's.

Oh and the hissing sound, you can hardly hear it when your driving. I can hardly hear it in my sti and I dont have any sound deadning in my car.
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damn that thing sounds like it has 25 gears...took the dude long enough to wind it up for a dyno pull..lol

I love the way it sounds...badass. Turbos are too cool, IMO. One thing I always wanted to do on my 3rd gen was a blow through..they make sick power.

Far as turbo vs S/C...FYI any type of FI generates a lot of heat in the air charge. S/C is considered the "most bang for the RPM" FI. Since a turbo impeller is spun by exhaust gases- you have low RPM, not much exhaust gas flow to turn it..thats where you get the term "turbo lag."

I could see a turbo car being a better "street warrior" on a F-body due to the fact that once these cars get out, even if they hit a surge of HP they continue to put power to the ground, even if spinning in the process.


heres a 1076 whp video, turbo car of course (even though im not huge on GN's)...friggin badass...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...4e9c14ff1c.htm

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Camarosopike...I'm not sure which you're supporting more? Centri-blowers, or Turbos? :p
neither. im supporting twin screw and roots style.
i was just throwin some comparison in there since you left out the other types of S/c

have you forgotten this?

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1573
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Yeah, I did forget about that...

Can anybody - if they feel like it - post up a dyno graph, or link to one of a Roots /o Twin Screw on a C6 Vette...I can't find any
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Far as turbo vs S/C...FYI any type of FI generates a lot of heat in the air charge. S/C is considered the "most bang for the RPM" FI. Since a turbo impeller is spun by exhaust gases- you have low RPM, not much exhaust gas flow to turn it..thats where you get the term "turbo lag."
Sorry but there is so much more too turbo lag then that. A properly sized turbo, water to air intercooler, water/meth injection will spool like a madman!
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Sorry but there is so much more too turbo lag then that. A properly sized turbo, water to air intercooler, water/meth injection will spool like a madman!

N2O will do it also...haha
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ya... Nos will help but wont last long, My water/meth injection uses about 5gal amonth but I get a constant 40hp from it. Water helps cools the air and the meth acts like a octane booster.
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