Decision Month - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Dallas90 · 06-30-2013, 10:18 PM

1823 Miles and 3 months into owning my 2SS and I've lost that loving feeling, at this point I probably wouldn't do it again.
Hard to believe that a Cadillac CTS has better feel/grip than my Camaro.
So I can try and see if new tires and maybe a strut tower brace would get rid of the problems (flat spotting, vague roll-in feel, mediocre traction, cold weather traction loss) I think I can get about $650 for the P-zeros on craigs list so I'd only be down about $500 or if the problems run deeper, I can pull the plug, and get a deal on a BMW from my nephew who is a salesman.
If you've tried Goodyear Eagle GT's or the Goodrich G-force I'd love to hear your impressions.

BadAndy · 06-30-2013, 11:49 PM

The 1LE package is the only reason I bought mine. The standard SS just felt "blech" in comparison.

Are you talking about a standard CTS or V?

Casperadub70 · 06-30-2013, 11:53 PM

Know anyone with a 1LE that would let you drive it? If not maybe you could test drive one at a dealership if you can find one to get a feeling of the diff. If you like it start adding what the 1LE has.

Dallas90 · 07-01-2013, 09:58 PM

I've only driven 2 CTS's, an '09 and an '11, both were the v-6 but the handling was crisp and precise. They were both riding on Sport Pilots and I didn't get a chance to see if they suffered the cold weather traction drop off that the P-Zero's do, and that info may not be applicable to the Camaro.
Good suggestion Casper, I was going to go with a strut tower brace and a Hotchkis max brace for the subframe before I started having second thoughts.
Gripes me to have to throw $300 to 400 on new tires but I can see the writing on the wall.

2014v6 · 07-01-2013, 10:01 PM

U can get the 1 le suspension throught a dealer and add it to your car.... just an idea

SlingShot · 07-01-2013, 10:16 PM

I think you should just trade the car in, it seems that your heart really isn't into the Camaro. In reality chances are no matter what you do to the car, you won't be happy with it.

Dallas90 · 07-01-2013, 11:01 PM

I thought my heart was in it when I bought it Slingshot, but you're right... I'm in a weird place with it right now

Dallas90 · 07-02-2013, 10:49 AM

O.K. Comrando cost me the whole morning looking at Pedders website and giving me hope again that I can get what I want. I don't need to match the CTS ride, but I would love to have MUCH more precise handling. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to drastically firm up the ride, but it doesn't need to be as comfy as the CTS.
Has anyone tried the Pedders rear subframe bushings? Were the results dramatic or less noticeable?

Elementkng20 · 07-02-2013, 11:11 AM

Go with the ATS

87GNX · 07-02-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas90

I thought my heart was in it when I bought it Slingshot, but you're right... I'm in a weird place with it right now

Buyer's remorse is a mothereffer......sell it or trade it.

caverman · 07-02-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

I think you should just trade the car in, it seems that your heart really isn't into the Camaro. In reality chances are no matter what you do to the car, you won't be happy with it.

I'll be honest, and I'm really not trying be an ass about this, but you've been second guessing your purchase of the Camaro ever since you bought it. I would say that you either need to trade for a ZL1 or go get you a CTS. You keep coming back to the handling on the CTS. Maybe that or the BMW is your ticket.

You should be happy with what you drive and if it's not the Camaro then it's not the Camaro. Get out before you toss money at it and still not be happy.

That being said, I've got a bunch of Pedders stuff on my car. I love the way it runs and handles. Then again I've never second guessed purchasing my Camaro. The only thing might have ever so slight wished is that I would've waited about 6 months and got a 2011 with HUD.

JFerraro819 · 07-02-2013, 12:17 PM

What kind of BMW can you get thats exciting for the 28k you'll most likely get on your trade? The fun cars begin at the M3 and cost more than a vette.

Frank in MD · 07-02-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elementkng20

Go with the ATS

I second that, you owe to yourself to at least check out the Caddy ATS, it's lighter, quicker and handles just as well as the BMW 3 series.

Biscuitpie · 07-02-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas90

I've only driven 2 CTS's, an '09 and an '11, both were the v-6 but the handling was crisp and precise. They were both riding on Sport Pilots and I didn't get a chance to see if they suffered the cold weather traction drop off that the P-Zero's do, and that info may not be applicable to the Camaro.
Good suggestion Casper, I was going to go with a strut tower brace and a Hotchkis max brace for the subframe before I started having second thoughts.
Gripes me to have to throw $300 to 400 on new tires but I can see the writing on the wall.

You shouldn't expect the summer tires to have traction when it's not summer, it's gonna be like that on every car. Before I even had my cam and it was winter if I'd floor it I would literally fishtail till about 80 LOL. Kinda fun but I wasn't expecting it to hook up anyway.

06-30-2013, 10:18 PM	#1
Dallas90 Drives: Victory Red 2013 SS/RS Dual Mode Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 65	Decision Month 1823 Miles and 3 months into owning my 2SS and I've lost that loving feeling, at this point I probably wouldn't do it again. Hard to believe that a Cadillac CTS has better feel/grip than my Camaro. So I can try and see if new tires and maybe a strut tower brace would get rid of the problems (flat spotting, vague roll-in feel, mediocre traction, cold weather traction loss) I think I can get about $650 for the P-zeros on craigs list so I'd only be down about $500 or if the problems run deeper, I can pull the plug, and get a deal on a BMW from my nephew who is a salesman. If you've tried Goodyear Eagle GT's or the Goodrich G-force I'd love to hear your impressions.

06-30-2013, 11:53 PM	#3
Casperadub70 Drives: 2014 1LE Camaro, 95 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: America Posts: 940	Know anyone with a 1LE that would let you drive it? If not maybe you could test drive one at a dealership if you can find one to get a feeling of the diff. If you like it start adding what the 1LE has. __________________ 2014 1LE 2SS Camaro Recaro seats, Custom Cam, Kooks LT headers, CAI intake, Z/28 Spoiler, Z/28 Belly Pan, Z/28 Brake Air Ducts, Stainless Steel breaklines, BMR Toe Rods and Trailing Arms resulting in 482.49 RWHP

07-01-2013, 10:01 PM	#5
2014v6 Drives: 2014 black 2 LT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 639	U can get the 1 le suspension throught a dealer and add it to your car.... just an idea __________________ Ordered:May 18 2013 2000 status 6-11-13 3000 status 6-12-13 TPW 7-22-13(6-14-13) 3300 status 6-28-13 3400 status 7-18-13 3800 status 7-20-13 4200 status On its way home 6000 status 7-31-13 first camaro ever... Sold 7-5-14.. thank you oshawa assembly

07-01-2013, 10:16 PM	#6
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	I think you should just trade the car in, it seems that your heart really isn't into the Camaro. In reality chances are no matter what you do to the car, you won't be happy with it. __________________

06-30-2013, 11:49 PM	#2
BadAndy Drives: 2013 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 149	The 1LE package is the only reason I bought mine. The standard SS just felt "blech" in comparison. Are you talking about a standard CTS or V?

07-01-2013, 09:58 PM	#4
Dallas90 Drives: Victory Red 2013 SS/RS Dual Mode Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 65	I've only driven 2 CTS's, an '09 and an '11, both were the v-6 but the handling was crisp and precise. They were both riding on Sport Pilots and I didn't get a chance to see if they suffered the cold weather traction drop off that the P-Zero's do, and that info may not be applicable to the Camaro. Good suggestion Casper, I was going to go with a strut tower brace and a Hotchkis max brace for the subframe before I started having second thoughts. Gripes me to have to throw $300 to 400 on new tires but I can see the writing on the wall.

07-01-2013, 11:01 PM	#7
Dallas90 Drives: Victory Red 2013 SS/RS Dual Mode Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 65	I thought my heart was in it when I bought it Slingshot, but you're right... I'm in a weird place with it right now

07-02-2013, 10:49 AM	#8
Dallas90 Drives: Victory Red 2013 SS/RS Dual Mode Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 65	O.K. Comrando cost me the whole morning looking at Pedders website and giving me hope again that I can get what I want. I don't need to match the CTS ride, but I would love to have MUCH more precise handling. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to drastically firm up the ride, but it doesn't need to be as comfy as the CTS. Has anyone tried the Pedders rear subframe bushings? Were the results dramatic or less noticeable?

07-02-2013, 11:11 AM	#9
Elementkng20 HTCC: canthonyIOM27 Drives: 2012 IOM 1LT/V6/A6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Richmond, Texas Posts: 299	Go with the ATS

07-02-2013, 12:17 PM	#12
JFerraro819 Drives: 2011 camaro lt rs Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 153	What kind of BMW can you get thats exciting for the 28k you'll most likely get on your trade? The fun cars begin at the M3 and cost more than a vette.