Going from a Maggie'd SS to a ZL1. Was I expecting too much? - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

the car just needs some power mods IMO to feel really "fast". simple and easy to do. all I have is CAI, TB, lower and the car pull night and day different. all of 3hrs labor.

Care to elaborate?

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Originally Posted by Modern07

The 530 you said you had in you old car - was that crank HP or at the wheels?

The reported 585hp in the ZL1 is crank hp and that's been translating to approx 480 at the wheels in the automatics on the few stock ones that have been dynoed

Just want to rule out that

My old car did 470rwhp. Ted with JRE said that's almost identical with his findings with an auto ZL1. So I've always assumed my old car's 470rwhp was somewhere around 530 at the crank.

Maybe I was underestimating my old car's crank HP.

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Originally Posted by Muscle SS

Wouldn't it be fair to say a tranny and engine tune might help substantially?

Main reason I gave up my Bee was for the factory warranty on the ZL1. Any potential mods will have to be non voiding warranty mods.

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Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Did the maggied car have more supporting mods?

Just CAI and L/T headers.

HDRDTD · 03-25-2013, 06:38 PM

It might just also depend on the torque curve and at what rpm the torque comes on strong.

SamHouseIII · 03-25-2013, 06:49 PM

Nice color choice!! Now if only Sam will pose with it.......lol

SamHouseIII · 03-25-2013, 06:51 PM

Oh, one other question....did you keep the havoc rims? thinking I may run these...your car was the reason I bought some for my ss before and I love them...wondering if I can fit a set of these on the ZL1?

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SamHouseIII

Nice color choice!! Now if only Sam will pose with it.......lol

Yeah, good idea but I'd have no way of finding her. That pic was taken at the first C5feast in Valdosta, GA. Sam was a super nice gal.

DrkPhx · 03-25-2013, 06:54 PM

Give the ZL1 some break in miles to wake up. Mine woke up around 1500-2,000 miles. It would curious to see the previous car's dyno run. Something to consider is the torque curve and low factory rev limiter. I don't know on the auto cars; but when I dyno'd mine the torque was at 500 ft-lbs plus from 3000-5000 rpms. That linear torque is deceptive and doesn't feel as peaky compared to some car.

BTW - Beautiful cars and welcome.

Modern07 · 03-25-2013, 06:56 PM

Yeah if you were getting 470 at the wheels in your old car then that's not much lower than the automatic ZL1 is stock - and when you take into consideration the extra weight of the ZL1 it makes sense that it doesn't feel as fast to you.

The ZL1 power delivery is also very linear - so it doesn't give you that kick and yet when you look at the speedo you're flying

What you definitely need to get though is the Rotofab CAI - that will get you a jump of about 25rwhp with no tune needed - it also brings out that supercharger whine which will bring a smile to your face!

FINALLYSATISFIED · 03-25-2013, 07:27 PM

Take that speed around a corner and tell me if you feel a difference.

Modern07 · 03-25-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Here's a pic of old vs new.

I Just noticed you're from Orlando and have a CRT - you weren't the CRT ZL1 I saw yesterday by Seminole Mall/David Maus in Sanford were you?

And any plans to come to the all GM show at Old Town in Kissimmee this Saturday? There are a bunch of us that will be attending

Monchy36 · 03-25-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SamHouseIII

Oh, one other question....did you keep the havoc rims? thinking I may run these...your car was the reason I bought some for my ss before and I love them...wondering if I can fit a set of these on the ZL1?

You kidding right?

I know they fit your ZL1 but why change the most wanted wheels? I trade you mines and money back!

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Here's a pic of old vs new.

Man! that Bee is beautiful! Somebody is going to be so happy!

Ltdodge · 03-25-2013, 08:13 PM

hey Ozzy, nice ZL1. yeah your other car was also badass, but the ZL1 looks great and its new to you.

enjoy your ride you deserve it.

as for the wheels the zl1 wheels are much nicer.

Luis

bumblebeecamaro · 03-25-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Modern07

I Just noticed you're from Orlando and have a CRT - you weren't the CRT ZL1 I saw yesterday by Seminole Mall/David Maus in Sanford were you?

And any plans to come to the all GM show at Old Town in Kissimmee this Saturday? There are a bunch of us that will be attending

Yup that was me. We just finished returning my old Bee to David Maus.

I plan on doing the show this Saturday.

Modern07 · 03-25-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Yup that was me. We just finished returning my old Bee to David Maus.

I plan on doing the show this Saturday.

Awesome - I'll look forward to meeting you on Saturday then!

I did wave yesterday btw not sure if you saw...I was the White ZL1 coming out of the mall looking annoyed because somebody had just cut me up in the lot haha!

SamHouseIII · 03-25-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Monchy36

You kidding right?

I know they fit your ZL1 but why change the most wanted wheels? I trade you mines and money back!

Man! that Bee is beautiful! Somebody is going to be so happy!

I should have re-stated...I want a set for winter time (no snow)......

03-25-2013, 06:49 PM	#17
SamHouseIII I Carry! Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Fletcher, Ok Posts: 2,722	Nice color choice!! Now if only Sam will pose with it.......lol __________________ I am a Modaholic!! Please Help!! Do Not feed my addicition....See build... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261540 From Oklahoma, Join us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/okcamaros/

03-25-2013, 06:51 PM	#18
SamHouseIII I Carry! Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Fletcher, Ok Posts: 2,722	Oh, one other question....did you keep the havoc rims? thinking I may run these...your car was the reason I bought some for my ss before and I love them...wondering if I can fit a set of these on the ZL1? __________________ I am a Modaholic!! Please Help!! Do Not feed my addicition....See build... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261540 From Oklahoma, Join us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/okcamaros/

03-25-2013, 06:56 PM	#21
Modern07 Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2019 ZL1 on Order Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Heathrow, FL Posts: 3,136	Yeah if you were getting 470 at the wheels in your old car then that's not much lower than the automatic ZL1 is stock - and when you take into consideration the extra weight of the ZL1 it makes sense that it doesn't feel as fast to you. The ZL1 power delivery is also very linear - so it doesn't give you that kick and yet when you look at the speedo you're flying What you definitely need to get though is the Rotofab CAI - that will get you a jump of about 25rwhp with no tune needed - it also brings out that supercharger whine which will bring a smile to your face! __________________ My Build Thread

03-25-2013, 08:13 PM	#25
Ltdodge Drives: 2008 Z06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oviedo, Florida Posts: 891	hey Ozzy, nice ZL1. yeah your other car was also badass, but the ZL1 looks great and its new to you. enjoy your ride you deserve it. as for the wheels the zl1 wheels are much nicer. Luis __________________

03-25-2013, 06:38 PM	#16
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	It might just also depend on the torque curve and at what rpm the torque comes on strong.

03-25-2013, 06:54 PM	#20
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	Give the ZL1 some break in miles to wake up. Mine woke up around 1500-2,000 miles. It would curious to see the previous car's dyno run. Something to consider is the torque curve and low factory rev limiter. I don't know on the auto cars; but when I dyno'd mine the torque was at 500 ft-lbs plus from 3000-5000 rpms. That linear torque is deceptive and doesn't feel as peaky compared to some car. BTW - Beautiful cars and welcome.

03-25-2013, 07:27 PM	#22
FINALLYSATISFIED Est.1775 Drives: '15 Challenger Hellcat (sold) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,502	Take that speed around a corner and tell me if you feel a difference.