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Old 11-13-2008, 10:56 PM   #1
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Time for everyone to help GM!

It's time for us all to do our part and do whatever we can to help out GM.

http://gmfactsandfiction.com/

Please take a moment and do your part.

From Scott;

Good evening, all -

Perhaps some of you have read this -- perhaps some have not.

I don't always agree with Peter - but I think that with the article below, he hits it out of the ballpark.

It's time to get in touch with your Congressman/Congresswoman -- and Senators!

The scary part? The vile comments on so many of the internet sites -- even our own enthusiast sites..........it is truly frightening as to the number of people who think they can 'escape' the catastrophe that may happen......

(I reminded a few people that when it's "GAME OVER" - you can't simply 'reboot' the computer or hit 'reset'






Tick, tick, tick...
By Peter M. De Lorenzo

Detroit. So it has come down to this for General Motors: 100 years of living, breathing American industrial and social history is on the precipice of total disaster, with the once-glittering corporate icon facing certain collapse if some sort of government financial aid package is not put together in the next 60 days.

Think about that for a moment.

The company that basically powered this nation through a century of progress and helped this country muster the strength to fight world wars - while contributing immeasurably to the fabric of America and the development of our vast middle class - is on the verge of filing bankruptcy.

Unbeknownst to the legions of people out there in “fractured” America, the ones who fill the Internet with bile and who project such a level of viciousness and unbridled glee at the thought of the collapse of our domestic automobile industry as if it were – amazingly enough - some warped opportunity for celebration, there are countless towns, big and small, scattered all across this nation that have grown up with GM as their main employer and the main source of income for thousands of American families.

I am absolutely convinced that the people who hate “Detroit” and want it to implode have not even the faintest of clues as to what it really means if it were allowed to happen. To those instant experts out there who are reveling at the thought of a major part of our country’s industrial fabric collapsing, I say be careful what you wish for - because if GM is allowed to fail, it will take the entire domestic auto industry down with it - meaning thousands of suppliers and dealers in towns making up a cross-section of America will go under too.

For the record, there are around14,000 domestic-oriented dealers in the U.S. employing approximately 740,000 people with a payroll of around $35 billion – that’s billion with a “B.” But that’s just the dealer side of the equation. When you add in the suppliers and all of the associated businesses that either directly or indirectly depend on Detroit for their livelihoods, we’re talking almost three million people who would be out of work in a matter of just a few months, adding up to a $150 billion loss in personal income.

Let’s take California, for instance. Judging by our reader mail, there seems to be a large contingent of people out there who adamantly believe that “Detroit deserves to die” etc., etc., and that whatever happens “won’t affect me.” But GM and the domestic auto industry’s collapse will most definitely affect Californians as well. NUMMI, a joint operation between GM and Toyota (the Toyota Corolla, Toyota Tacoma and Pontiac Vibe are built there) and the only San Francisco Bay Area car factory, is already reducing shifts and may even shut down its Tacoma pickup truck line due to the burgeoning economic slowdown. One of our readers who understands the ramifications of a domestic industry collapse passed this interesting local news report along about NUMMI, which said, "There are tens of thousands of additional jobs on the line besides the 5,000 at NUMMI. There are over 1,000 suppliers in California that provide parts. They in turn employ 50,000 people."

That’s just one factory. Now multiply that by the staggering totals involved if GM - which has 22 stamping plants and 26 powertrain plants in North America on top of its assembly facilities - and the rest of the domestic automobile industry is allowed to fail. The tentacles of this kind of cataclysmic disaster would spread throughout the nation like a virus that could not be contained.

I really don’t know why it’s so easy for people out there to dismiss the collapse of the domestic automobile industry as being some minor event that won’t affect them in the least, because each person who is part of that figure of three million represents a real family and real human story, all across this nation. It’s the mom and pop diners, stores and peripheral neighborhood businesses that depend on the workers who toil at these factories and plants for their livelihoods too. There are towns all across America that would simply dry up and blow away if the local GM or supplier plant shut down. That’s not an exaggeration, that’s a simple fact.

I have been vilified of late by numerous critics for shifting my commentary to a more political tone over this election year, but I don’t offer any apologies. This country is not only in the throes of a financial crisis, it’s in the throes of a fundamental identity crisis as well. We as a nation have been lulled into thinking that things will work out and that any unpleasantness headed our way will be mere speed bumps on our journey to becoming a state of perpetual consumer bliss.

Well, it just doesn’t work that way, folks.

We live in a global economy that isn’t big on history or what we as a nation once did or stood for. We have to compete, or else we will arrive at a point when our national future will transition from being one of destiny to one being dictated to us by a unsavory set of circumstances and interests not in line in the least with our hopes, our dreams or our thinking.

In order to compete in this global economy we have to get smarter in our schools and with our educational policies. A high school graduation rate of 50-60 percent should be anathema in our inner cities instead of too often the rule. Remedial classes for kids entering college (who are not able to handle freshman classes) should become a thing of the past. And our teachers need to be compensated realistically and properly so more of our brightest people can sign up to help shape our kids’ futures.

Even though we as a nation don’t seem to have the stomach for hard work and sacrifice any longer - hell, I’m not sure those words and their meanings are even in the lexicon of vast swaths of our population - we must get tougher in the midst of this global economy, and we have to steel ourselves for the kind of battles we’ll face. And that means shoring up our manufacturing and supporting our homegrown industries that are so intertwined with communities all across this still great nation. It also means that President elect Obama will not only be President of the United States, he will have to be CEO of America, Inc. too.

And America Inc. not only needs to be rebuilt, it needs to be fortified with new determination because there are far too many talented and creative people in this nation who can do extraordinary things and we need to make the idea – the idea that we can innovate, create, build and manufacture things that are the envy of the world - cool again, and take pride in doing so as well.

In short, this nation needs a wake-up call.

Anyone who thinks this country will not be thrown into a full-blown depression if the domestic automobile industry is allowed to fail is simply kidding themselves. We are facing a perfect storm of events that could spell disaster if we as a nation don’t act and act fast. And it would take years for this country to recover too.

As I’ve said repeatedly the time for all of the idyllic, “let the free market run its course” hand-wringing is over. It’s far too late for that. This country’s leadership needs to get these loans to GM and the rest of the domestic automobile industry in the next 60 days, or life as we’ve come to know it in this country – and I mean every part of this country – not just here in the Motor City, will be severely and unequivocally altered.

That tick, tick, tick you hear?

It's the time running out on the future of America.

Let’s hope that what needs to get done will in fact get done, before it's too late.

Thanks for listening.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:01 PM   #2
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:09 PM   #3
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I pray this doesnt happen, cars are the least of my worries right now, i just hope in the next year i still have a job and can put food on the table.

As i said in a previous post today.....a storm is coming, one that im afraid can not be stopped, no amount of money is going to halt this nightmare.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:22 PM   #4
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I want to see my Z/28 or at least my SS. I'm doing my part. I'll even buy some more GM stock.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:24 PM   #5
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"We are facing a perfect storm of events that could spell disaster if we as a nation don’t act and act fast. "

Agreed.

And - Done.

We, as a Nation, are on the verge of losing something that cannot be given a value. That's HERITAGE. GM is -- like it or not a HUGE part of our history and heritage.

It/they MUST be sustained.

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Old 11-13-2008, 11:33 PM   #6
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:36 PM   #7
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*looks at sig*

I've done my part. Other GM families have done their parts.

It's time for the rest of America to wake up.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:40 PM   #8
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I want GM around for my kids, for when I buy them their first car. So that they can feel the same way I feel when I go pick up my Camaro.

I pray that GM will be around. I'm glad I don't sleep much so that I could be one of the first to post on this thread.

I love GM, I love America. I want heritage, tradition and "MADE IN AMERICA" to survive.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:47 PM   #9
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I say we do all our part and tell our friends. If GM does get bailed out, then we as the American people I think should decide how the company should be run. I have never bought an American Car, the Camaro will be my first, and every time after I will buy American.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:51 PM   #10
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I say we do all our part and tell our friends. If GM does get bailed out, then we as the American people I think should decide how the company should be run. I have never bought an American Car, the Camaro will be my first, and every time after I will buy American.
It's a loan. I somewhat agree that there should be some oversight until the loan is paid off but letting congress directly decide how GM should be run would be a disaster. They can't run anything! Look at the yearly budget deficit if you need any evidence.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:05 AM   #11
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:34 AM   #12
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I've been supporting GM since I was old enough to drive, and will continue to do so. My sig says it all! I WILL be buying a 5th gen in a few years also.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:48 AM   #13
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Done * Also buying some GM stock. We need GM to stay alive and weather this storm.
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