1LE/ ZL1 production temporary suspension effective Nov 21

[San2cci]

I love enjoying my Camaro every single day regardless of rain, snow, sleet, or sun. I don't understand why people put the car away unless they really don't feel safe driving in snow.

[Jason@JacFab]

Very strange indeed... I drove my SS year round, rain, sleet, or snow.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by NJBourne23

Why not just ship them with "basic" tires and have the dealer switch them out? Then you can have a disclaimer signed explaining that the tires are not good in the snow/cold and recommend switching tires or winterizing the vehicle until Spring. What about those in warmer climates

Logistical nightmare.

Originally Posted by RacnJsn95

Very strange indeed... I drove my SS year round, rain, sleet, or snow.

The Goodyear tires on the ZL1 and 1LE are unique, and don't act like the Pirelli tires much at all. In short: they are phenomenal in the warm weather and simply mind-blowing on the track....but they absolutely hate cold weather. 40º and below: forget it. It's like trying to drive with tupperware lids bolted to the axles...

[OperativeXIV]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

The Goodyear tires on the ZL1 and 1LE are unique, and don't act like the Pirelli tires much at all. In short: they are phenomenal in the warm weather and simply mind-blowing on the track....but they absolutely hate cold weather. 40º and below: forget it. It's like trying to drive with tupperware lids bolted to the axles...

This makes me wonder what you're supposed to do if you take a weekend drive up to the mountains or something and it's a bit nippy outside? Do you get winter tires and put them on if there's a chance you'll see colder weather? Or is there a bit of hyperbole in this (and GM's) statement and it's fine for driving around as long as you're not trying to break records at the drag strip?

[DavidW]

You get different tires if you need to drive below 40F, and its not just about the fact that the tires shouldnt be driven below 40F, but I guess some people didnt read my first post so ill say it again..

THESE TIRES CANNOT BE EXPOSED TO BELOW 20F

The tires can start to crack when they are exposed to those temperatures, and guess what the projected low in Oshawa is for Sunday? 23F and its not even December yet.

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by San2cci

I love enjoying my Camaro every single day regardless of rain, snow, sleet, or sun. I don't understand why people put the car away unless they really don't feel safe driving in snow.

because i want to keep it around and they put a mixture of salt and ash on the roads that will eat a car like this befor its payed off. And I hate to see it covered with crap. Plus I have a 4x4 to drive in the winter. Once you have a 4x4 with 4 studded snow tires you will never want to drive a car in the snow again.

[ZED SLED]

Of all the threads that get moved this one is a prime candidate. If it were in just the ZL1 and 1LE sections maybe so many heads wouldn't explode, lol.

[kevinw]

hence, when i bought my car, i didnt want the RS package and summer only tires. i got a non rs with 19 inch all season tires. some tires are just made for certain types of driving and GM dont expect folks with ZL1 cars to be plowing down detroit snow.

[Buffman]

hence why I bought a 1LE, these tires make this car what it is, and I have no problems having it sit in my warm garage and NEVER seeing snow (salt/mag chloride etc).

Here is a long post on all this as well:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328054

[HmBuilder2]

Originally Posted by el ess A

If you're not ordering a 1LE or ZL1, don't worry about it, it does not affect you. It certainly isn't affecting me. I got mine.

Doesn't matter if YOU can drive year round. The cars don't sit in climate controlled comfort in Oshawa. They're OUTSIDE...and in Oshawa, if you haven't got the memo yet...gets COLD. So cold it can affect the tire situation.

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires. If you don't like it, then wait until spring and put in your order. You can probably place an order with your dealer now and in February, they'll make yours.

It's out of your hands, and if you think you can change it, don't. Because you can't. The word has come down from the mountain. Get over it, get on with life. Go find a cure for cancer or something. It's a higher priority than ZL1/1LE orders.

+1

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by OperativeXIV

This makes me wonder what you're supposed to do if you take a weekend drive up to the mountains or something and it's a bit nippy outside? Do you get winter tires and put them on if there's a chance you'll see colder weather? Or is there a bit of hyperbole in this (and GM's) statement and it's fine for driving around as long as you're not trying to break records at the drag strip?

I've driven on the tires in every non-damaging condition imaginable (see: above 30º)...If the temperature falls below 45º...traction is SEVERELY compromised...just a little too much throttle and the car slides around. BUT!! If you're careful and knowledgable - you can drive the car. The concern becomes "what if you need to perform an emergency maneuver?"

....so, take that for what you will.

[DavidW]

Originally Posted by kevinw

hence, when i bought my car, i didnt want the RS package and summer only tires. i got a non rs with 19 inch all season tires. some tires are just made for certain types of driving and GM dont expect folks with ZL1 cars to be plowing down detroit snow.

The summer tires on the rs and ss package cars is not effected by this bulletin there is no set minimum storage temp for the 20" pirellis so they can be shipped year round your all seasons might allow you to drive a little bit safer between 40 and 20 but in the end they are not snow tires, and they do get harder sooner than a dedicated winter tire would/

[Vroom_vroom]

if i remember right last year they where holding them because the tires where cracking due to the cold weather before they shipped.

[Hyena]

Originally Posted by el ess A

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires.

Actually,they do play musical chairs with tires.We get trucks in all the time with transport tires on them and the wheels and tires that they were ordered with,come via freight truck.

If GM wanted to ship those units,they could.They just don't want too.