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Old 01-12-2010, 12:02 AM   #15
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No, I like it.
Certainly better than the boring designs Mercedes offers.

The engine choice is what intrigues me.
I mean, I understand the whole going green thing, but this just seems strange to me.
I'd say it's also a performance thing.

The PHEV system in the XTS can power the car up to 40 MPH, meaning that launches will be electrically driven...meaning instant torque.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:03 AM   #16
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I think this might be a good call. I think that a lot of people in this segment might be more interested in the feel than the number of cylinders. This isn't exactly a performance product.
It dosen't have to do with the number of cylinders, but rather the hybrid part.
I think people that want this car should be given the choice of whether they want to go green or not.
It's a nice car to turn down the segment who doesn't want a hybrid car.

That's just my opinion though.

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I'd say it's also a performance thing.

The PHEV system in the XTS can power the car up to 40 MPH, meaning that launches will be electrically driven...meaning instant torque.
good point...
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:20 AM   #17
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It dosen't have to do with the number of cylinders, but rather the hybrid part.
I think people that want this car should be given the choice of whether they want to go green or not.
It's a nice car to turn down the segment who doesn't want a hybrid car.

That's just my opinion though.


good point...
For the sake of argument—I haven't played devil's advocate in far too long—let's consider this: the option of going green hasn't been an option for cars that green buyers would eagerly choose. For instance, a smart fortwo hardly makes a grocery getter that can get more than a couple bags of groceries. Alternatively, a Suburban, despite its ability to carry a platoon of children, has no torque-lacking green alternative.

The argument, then, is that the green part is just a small part of the car. Regardless of the political ramifications of being green, GM has engineered a Cadillac that looks good and carries a primary motor that acts as a counterweight to the fact that GM is still struggling to sell enough pro-CAFE products to avoid one of two great evils: massive tax penalties for failing to adhere to CAFE or the end of so many products that we enthusiasts know and love. Sadly, we cannot expect CAFE to get repealed. Not enough Camaro5 members, despite our gargantuan size and lobbying potential, are politically active enough to make even a single call to their elected officials, regardless of party, to demand CAFE's repeal. This leaves us two very important alternatives that could reshape the automotive industry: we accept green cars as a standard for certain non-performance products or we say goodbye to most of our performance products. What would you rather have? I know where I stand.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:25 AM   #18
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green cars arent bad. the more green cars thats out there, the more better off the earth is, the more we can hold on to our camaros.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:27 AM   #19
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I swear I want this car !!!!!!

As I mature a lil bit, I'm starting to sway from performance cars to luxury brands ... I don't know why but that's sexy

I don't like the hybrid part, but give me the LLT alone and I would gladly buy it over a camaro
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:13 AM   #20
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I don't love it but it does what it intends well: big flagship Cadillac. Exterior could be a touch bolder (this is Cadillac remember), but no more than a touch. The powertrain choice makes sense, base engine is the 3.6 DI, offer a two mode hybrid system and spread out some of the Volt's battery development cost, then introduce a XTS-V with a Gen V V8 engine.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:15 AM   #21
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Sorry...first reaction.

Not too sure what to think either.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:16 AM   #22
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They need a new chief designer imo.


Would it kill them to throw in some curves? The interior is stellar, but the exterior has that same old straight-edged Cadillac thing going on which I am not a huge fan of.
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I think the idea of a hybrid powerboost with the 3.6L LLT is very exciting; Cadillac needs a 350 hp range engine. If they can get the pricing right making the hybrid 3.6L the mainline update to the 3.6L in the Camaro and the CTS would be interesting. Cadillac has been missing a 2-stage hybrid in a car (Escalade Hybrid is available).

I would also like to see an LSx engine available in the DTS, and I suspect we will see the 3.6L w/o hybrid as the entry-level version.
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Would it kill them to throw in some curves? The interior is stellar, but the exterior has that same old straight-edged Cadillac thing going on which I am not a huge fan of.
Cadillac's design theme IS straight lines and edges. If you want curves, you're going to want to look at Buick.
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Car looks excellent. I like the straight edges of Cadillac, because it is truly its own design. When you see a newer Cadillac, it looks like nothing else on the road. I had an '08 CTS, and now an '09 CTS-V, and I still love looking at the car. The surface designs and sharp creases are really eye-catching in person.

I dig the XTS a lot, but it really needs a V8 option to lure the diehard big Caddy buyers who won't settle for less. XTS-V would be right up my alley
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:56 AM   #28
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Holy Hell....that thing looks like it could spar with a Bentley. WOW. Cadillac is truly becoming the standard of the world, once again. ...heh....WOW.

It seems like the interior designers were good friends with the Corvette Stingray's interior designers...I see similar features and technologies -- hopefully a preview of the future of GM cars.
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