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Blacktip · 02-07-2012, 07:59 PM

This is awesome! ..jumping back on fourth on these threads, and getting excited about moding these bad boys instead of worrying about oil levels for a change, lol

TJ91 · 02-07-2012, 08:00 PM

if it works with the VR for sure and still gets good results, ill buy this asap and get the TB after that

PoorMansCamaro · 02-07-2012, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Agree Jay, and even Tracy himself said it was suprising.

So I hope Mike gets a tester soon and can back this up with more positive results.

That said, even if it makes half the power from Tracy's testing today I'll be all over it because it is still good power for the price, and I think I can get the Vararam to work with it.

i must have missed this thread...

TJ91 · 02-07-2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

i must have missed this thread...

go into the vendors market in v6 bolt ons and find the thread. results are impressive

PoorMansCamaro · 02-07-2012, 08:05 PM

thanks!

rtcat600man · 02-07-2012, 08:10 PM

This is AWESOME. I will have my order placed shortly for both items. I will then do some head port matching too.

chozn4service · 02-07-2012, 08:10 PM

Mike I'm always available to you if you want my car. I've moved since the Dyno Day event but I'm still close by at 86th and I-465 North west. I'm off right now due to my second knee surgery but I could bring it and drop it off to you and leave it and have my girl bring me back home. You can keep it as long as you like as long as its inside and of course, I won't come get it until the roads are clean and dry. LOL

PoorMansCamaro · 02-07-2012, 08:19 PM

so this is the same one that tracy is talking about in the vendor section?

chozn4service · 02-07-2012, 08:38 PM

I'm curious with my Vararam, VMax TB and tune by Trifecta what the results will be and I think I probably have what most have as far as engine mods. Would be a good look with these items.

Anyway, Mike knows how to reach me if it wants my car. I'm less than 15mins from the shop.

Can't_C_Me · 02-07-2012, 09:14 PM

I'm so glad I have this going on with my turbo build. Tracy PM'd saying that the insulator and matched IM will produce more power at just 6psi's. Compared to just having the turbo's with no IM and insulator. Gretchen is already running all this and look at her go!

KMPrenger · 02-07-2012, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

so this is the same one that tracy is talking about in the vendor section?

Yes it is.

Mike Norris · 02-08-2012, 07:02 AM

Yes it is the same piece as Tracy tested in that is is the VMax. There are a couple reasons I want to do another test.

First, it always good to have a back up test by another facility when results are above expectations. This is not to say Tracy would skew results to make sales, but just the proper process is R&D.

Second, my testing will be more comprehensive in that it will be an "A" to "B" and back to "A" test. In other words, do the baseline with no isolator and check all pertinent temp points via infrared. Install the isolator and duplicate test process. The go back to no isolator and duplicate the process again.

Third will be PCM data to see if there was KR present in any of the testing, with or without the isolator.

And last I will also be trying to test is all the gains are coming from the less heat transfer into the upper plenum or is it being helped by adding volume to the plenum.

Like I said, a lot more comprehensive test then yesterday. This will also be tested as an "as machined" piece and how it will be sold, no port matching so this will be more of a simple bolt on real world result that would be important for about 90% of purchasers.

I think results will comparable with the Mace 25mm piece, but only a true back to back test will tell. But at least gains can be shown from dyno to dyno and in the end, the delta gains at each 100 RPM are most important, not the final numbers. FYI, the one piece was done on purpose to help with more insulation to keep heat away from the center, plus one piece is easier to install.

I will most likely go with Joe since he is local and it will be nice to see how it fits with the Vararam. But I would still like to test a stock manual trans car and I will be trying to get with WildL16 if possible on that test.

So that is it for now on my end, but keep comments and qusetions coming for sure.

Mike Norris

Eric59 · 02-08-2012, 07:11 AM

Like the idea it will be tested on a car with the vararam on it. Looking forward to the results.

bmorecam · 02-08-2012, 08:52 AM

Mike..you are the man bud

02-07-2012, 07:59 PM	#29
Blacktip Drives: 2011 1LT Silver RS package Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 461	This is awesome! ..jumping back on fourth on these threads, and getting excited about moding these bad boys instead of worrying about oil levels for a change, lol __________________ .....Well alright,alright..didn't know it was this kind of party

02-07-2012, 08:00 PM	#30
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	if it works with the VR for sure and still gets good results, ill buy this asap and get the TB after that __________________ CAMARO Consult your doctor before taking Camaro Side effects include Sudden increase in Heart Rate, Insomnia and occasional hallucinations If you experience Permagrin exceeding 4 hours after taking Camaro, seek immediate Camaro5 Help CAMARO Bringing excitment back into the Garage

02-07-2012, 08:05 PM	#33
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,957	thanks! __________________

02-07-2012, 08:10 PM	#34
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	This is AWESOME. I will have my order placed shortly for both items. I will then do some head port matching too. __________________ MY BUILD

02-07-2012, 08:10 PM	#35
chozn4service Drives: 2016 SS w/2SS A8 Blue Velvet Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 39.793153,-86.238223 Posts: 3,678 View My Garage	Mike I'm always available to you if you want my car. I've moved since the Dyno Day event but I'm still close by at 86th and I-465 North west. I'm off right now due to my second knee surgery but I could bring it and drop it off to you and leave it and have my girl bring me back home. You can keep it as long as you like as long as its inside and of course, I won't come get it until the roads are clean and dry. LOL __________________ Never grow up, it's a trap!

02-07-2012, 08:19 PM	#36
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,957	so this is the same one that tracy is talking about in the vendor section? __________________ Last edited by PoorMansCamaro; 02-07-2012 at 08:39 PM.

02-07-2012, 08:38 PM	#37
chozn4service Drives: 2016 SS w/2SS A8 Blue Velvet Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 39.793153,-86.238223 Posts: 3,678 View My Garage	I'm curious with my Vararam, VMax TB and tune by Trifecta what the results will be and I think I probably have what most have as far as engine mods. Would be a good look with these items. Anyway, Mike knows how to reach me if it wants my car. I'm less than 15mins from the shop. __________________ Never grow up, it's a trap!

02-07-2012, 09:14 PM	#38
Can't_C_Me Don't Sleep on My V6 Drives: 2016 C7 1LT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oxford, GA Posts: 3,596 View My Garage	I'm so glad I have this going on with my turbo build. Tracy PM'd saying that the insulator and matched IM will produce more power at just 6psi's. Compared to just having the turbo's with no IM and insulator. Gretchen is already running all this and look at her go! __________________

02-08-2012, 07:02 AM	#40
Mike Norris Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 592	Yes it is the same piece as Tracy tested in that is is the VMax. There are a couple reasons I want to do another test. First, it always good to have a back up test by another facility when results are above expectations. This is not to say Tracy would skew results to make sales, but just the proper process is R&D. Second, my testing will be more comprehensive in that it will be an "A" to "B" and back to "A" test. In other words, do the baseline with no isolator and check all pertinent temp points via infrared. Install the isolator and duplicate test process. The go back to no isolator and duplicate the process again. Third will be PCM data to see if there was KR present in any of the testing, with or without the isolator. And last I will also be trying to test is all the gains are coming from the less heat transfer into the upper plenum or is it being helped by adding volume to the plenum. Like I said, a lot more comprehensive test then yesterday. This will also be tested as an "as machined" piece and how it will be sold, no port matching so this will be more of a simple bolt on real world result that would be important for about 90% of purchasers. I think results will comparable with the Mace 25mm piece, but only a true back to back test will tell. But at least gains can be shown from dyno to dyno and in the end, the delta gains at each 100 RPM are most important, not the final numbers. FYI, the one piece was done on purpose to help with more insulation to keep heat away from the center, plus one piece is easier to install. I will most likely go with Joe since he is local and it will be nice to see how it fits with the Vararam. But I would still like to test a stock manual trans car and I will be trying to get with WildL16 if possible on that test. So that is it for now on my end, but keep comments and qusetions coming for sure. Mike Norris Last edited by Mike Norris; 02-08-2012 at 07:32 AM.

02-08-2012, 07:11 AM	#41
Eric59 Drives: 2013 Summit White 1LE Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 226 View My Garage	Like the idea it will be tested on a car with the vararam on it. Looking forward to the results. __________________ Mods: RX catch can, ZL1 Rockers, ZL1 Grill, ADM Race CAI, OBX 1 7/8 headers, tune

02-08-2012, 08:52 AM	#42
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	Mike..you are the man bud

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