05-29-2009, 03:24 AM | #99 |
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Remove the mirror then install a rear view camera and screen on the dash? It may be the only way for you to drive safely.
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05-29-2009, 06:51 AM | #100 |
Don't think so...
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Hey all....first post here BTW....so is the mirror in rolnslo's post the revised "shorter" one when compared to the one in Matt'sSS's post on pg 2?
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05-29-2009, 07:21 AM | #101 | |
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I know I'm going to have to deal with this issue when my Camaro arrives...because it IS a safety issue! I can learn to deal with the rearward visibility problems, however forward visibility shouldn't require very many compromises. I would hope GM would address this, and offer some sort of modification to the mirror's design/position for those of us who's forward vision is impaired. Just getting it to raise up a little bit would make a HUGE improvement. As I've stated in another thread about this issue, I am not an automotive engineer, nor am I an automotive designer. Having said that, I can't believe this is the first time this potential problem has been brought up. I would hope GM looks into this and provides a solution for those of us who REALLY need one. I believe they would be off doing it now while it's still early, instead of waiting until someone gets into a bad accident and points to the poor forward visibility due to "a mirror" as it's cause. Once some injury attorney gets involved, $$$...well, NOBODY wants that!!!
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05-29-2009, 08:08 AM | #103 | |
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the window blackout only comes down the top 1/3rd of the mirror and is above my LOS.... the bottom 2/3rds of the mirror is near useless and in the way. the onstar buttons alone take up 1" at the bottom of the mirror... GM could have easily put them on the sides of the mirror (or on the console for that matter) if they REALLY addressed the "mirror issue."
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Windshield=10" vertical mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield... it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin.... our collective MIRROR patch: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24612 |
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05-29-2009, 08:24 AM | #104 | |
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I just thought if someone else had a solution they could help me and i wouldnt need to reinvent the wheel, or mirror. or if GM, dealer, etc could chime in and say.... "hey, since i work with GM products every day you might try a solstice mirror, or a G8 mirror, etc." this car is EXTREMELY AWESOME. my car does not have the sunroof so i have thoughts of moving the onstar stuff where there is no sunroof button.... i just always like to check and see if somebody has a better idea first. i call it planning. i've already vented about my dislike... im just looking for answers here. thanks for ALL of the constructive input.
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Windshield=10" vertical mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield... it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin.... our collective MIRROR patch: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24612 |
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05-29-2009, 08:27 AM | #105 |
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I'm definitely having that mirror removed..I could care less about onstar..
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05-29-2009, 08:34 AM | #106 |
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i agree with you totally. i sat in a car for the first time yesterday and that was what i noticed right away. i didnt adjust the mirrors or seats and my head was against the roof i am six foot one. so i know the seat can be lowered and the mirror adjusted somewhat but that is a big concern i have right now. its not going to stop me from getting this car but i am definately going to look into another mirror as well.
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05-29-2009, 08:49 AM | #107 | |
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this really calls for a new mirror and moving onstar. thanks all for the support!
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Windshield=10" vertical mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield... it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin.... our collective MIRROR patch: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24612 |
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05-29-2009, 08:57 AM | #108 |
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Keep us all informed because in a month or two, I will be doing the same thing.
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05-29-2009, 08:57 AM | #109 |
also from the pic i posted... did anybody see the white S-10 in the parking lot to the right that was pulling onto the street? (heck, you cant even see the outlet to the street)
the s-10 would not be a danger in the pictured scenario but it does illustrate my point. and no, i'm not making this sh@t up.
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Windshield=10" vertical mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield... it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin.... our collective MIRROR patch: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24612 |
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05-29-2009, 08:59 AM | #110 | |
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I honestly think the "best" solution is to go to a chevy dealer and walk around the lot until you find a car with a much smaller onstar mirror. If that doesnt work, call GM, get a tech on the phone and tell him you want a smaller onstar mirror, and you want specs for the last couple years... Make GM work to fix the problem, they built the car! While some people arent having the problem, there are enough that are brining it up that are... so it's an issue that GM should address. The back window viewing area (mind you I only sat in a camaro for a few minutes) was small enough that you dont need that monstorous mirror! There are open "blanks" in the overhead console of non sunroof guys, maybe they can be used to hold the onstar buttons and then you can buy the smallest but useful size mirror you could find. That might be the easiest solution... hmmmmm if my camaro was already here, I could start looking into that... I'd just need a wiring diagram for the onstar mirror and overhead console. Hurry up with the service manual GM!
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05-29-2009, 09:03 AM | #111 |
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Well if you're just looking for a mirror to buy, there's lots of options there.
Gentex is the biggest brand of OnStar mirror manufacturers I found info on. It sounds like they supply several of the auto manufacturers, but they do not sell their own product. Mitocorp is their authorized vendor it sounds like, and they have a few options, including one with a built in screen for a rear view camera (not that I think you would need that in a Camaro, but it might be nice for a Suburban). Here's a link to their OnStar page. http://www.mitocorp.com/auto-dimming...rs-onstar.html There are also several other websites you can find these kind of product from new (and thus hopefully returnable if it does not work or help). http://autodax.com/catalog/pdetail.php?prdid=300 http://shop.autodimmingmirrors.com/products-full.asp http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_au...=onstar+mirror I'm personally hoping I don't get the thicker bottomed mirror, not sure what makes that difference though... If I do, I'll probably try to modify it if I can, but if that looks to be too much of a pain I'll probably pick up something used from eBay to hack on. http://shop.ebay.com/items/onstar%20..._dmd=1&_sop=12 I'm not sure just a different mirror will resolve it if the adjustment is already maxed for height. The slightly thinner mirror bottom will help, but I don't think it would be enough. |
05-29-2009, 09:32 AM | #112 |
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I'm not sure if this is possible with the way the mirror is attached to the arm but...can you bend the mirror down, spin it around on the arm (might need to disconnect/reconnect the wires), and push it back up so the Onstar buttons on now at the top instead?
Seems to me that arm attachment is high-mounted on the back of the mirror and you could gain room if the mirror could be flipped over and make the arm low-mounted instead.
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