2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[newagemuscle]

That's pretty much where I thought it would be. Now with some drags... 10's

[RallyYellow11]

Pretty impressive numbers, but honestly i thought they would be better based off of power and weight. Either way still two BAD A$$ cars and I would be happy with either.

[WE485]

you should change the name of this section to the "horse sh!t" section. that way everyone will know what their stepping in.

[Brent Hinds]

The real key thing in these numbers is that the ZL1 still pulls more Gs. That's how the ZL1 has the best Nurburrgring time!

[Fenderaddict2]

So the new Shelby makes the Boss feel like a hatchback?!?!!

http://www.motorward.com/2012/05/201...-lenos-garage/

[G8GT4now]

Really, still throwing out the "ring" as though it means something to the general public?

Most people, including me, look at 0-60 times, and qtr mile times and speeds.

The GT500 is in Z06 territory now. Chevy is trapped now.

[newagemuscle]

Originally Posted by G8GT4now

Really, still throwing out the "ring" as though it means something to the general public?

Most people, including me, look at 0-60 times, and qtr mile times and speeds.

The GT500 is in Z06 territory now. Chevy is trapped now.

I agree... since when is everyone into road racing? It is what it is.

[MrandMrsNinja]

that's a pretty bad a** car. If only it wasn't so ugly.

highly impressive though. Ford brought their A game on this one. wonder if Chevy will do a revamp on the ZL1 in the next couple of years to make the competition a little closer..........

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by drobbins2

I really don't get comments like this or why anyone is really surprised at the numbers. The GT500 has an 80hp and 350lb weight advantage. .5 tenths faster is really not shocking to anyone that actually knows cars.

What did people expect? The ZL1 to beat it in a straight line on suspension alone? That's ridiculous. So what if its faster. The ZL1 is still an incredible vehicle for 54k. The GT500 was tested @64k.

The pony war is now officially in full throttle. Let's see how GM and Dodge respond.

Come on dude, you quote a ZL1 price that excludes delivery and GGT, and then a GT500 price that includes options that aren't even available on the ZL1?

The apples to apple price is 56,300 for the ZL1 and 61,500 for the GT500. If you're not going to be hitting the road course and can do without the extra handling bits, then the GT500 is 1300 cheaper than the ZL1.

[Blue Menace]

^^ what he said. (leaves grumbling about the stupid gg tax)

[oortcloud]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Stop being so silly. Lol

Why is it silly? People on this thread are saying the shelby is faster that the zl1 on the road track, but there's no proof. To me THAT is silly.

At least we have some actual times for the zl1. But only if I understood more about road racing, I would realize how irrelevant these times are. I must be an expert to understand what's really going on. My father was an amateur racer in europe for a few years. Does this make me an expert? No, but I'm not a complete newbie either.

They do things like play video games to learn the track. Or their use their own drivers. Like it's cheating or something. Who cares? Can't ford do the same thing?

Or the argument that the 'ring times are not a true measure of a cars ability. I know for a fact that ford has taken the 2013 shelby to the 'ring twice. Maybe someone should tell ford there's no point in going there.

I'm waiting for some road track numbers from the shelby. Even though they will be totally irrelevant according to the experts here. Until then the only facts I have to go by are the ZL1's posted times.

[matt55]

Originally Posted by Brent Hinds

The real key thing in these numbers is that the ZL1 still pulls more Gs. That's how the ZL1 has the best Nurburrgring time!

2/100 of a G, really

[Deki]

Originally Posted by jlawrence613

Throughly impressed. Mag times are either hero runs or pale in comparison to hands of real world drivers (see anybody saying the SS Camaro is a 13.0 sec car). I wonder which this is?

If they hit lower times in stock trim once your average weekend racer gets a hold of it, then this car is downright scary.

As tested @ 64k is a bit pricey... Does anyone know what in that price range (55-65k) [ZL1 Excluded] is faster or had better performance? I'm not SAYING its direct competition, but what does a 2012-2013 Z06 do in the 1/4?

Base price on a Z06 is 12k more than the GT500 fully loaded. They start at 76,600. I'm sure a Z06 would run about the same time, but maybe trap a bit lower.

[Unreal]

z06s in good air trap 125-127. They pull tons of timing at 90+ degree intake temps so on a good day they can do that, but on a bad day more like 122-123.

You can get z06s for $12k-18k off sticker so the price difference right now isn't there. Once they start discounting the GT500s in a few years then yes.

Overall a great car.